Benelli M2 Comfortech was the lightest and fastest of the bunch. The Berettas won’t perfectly cycle the Winchester 26 gram sub-sonic “Feather” loads, but I haven’t seen any gas gun that will cycle them 100%. BENELLI M2. 20ga Benelli M2 Anaconda . For a low Beretta A400 price, you have a 12, 20 or 28-gauge shotgun that features the very best of Beretta. ( Log Out /  The Technoid writing for Shotgun Report, LLC With heavier loads, the Benelli scaled better with intensity of the shells Beretta A400. loads. The 400s are built on an action which differs from most of the 300 series in having a rotary bolt head (perhaps an influence from Benelli which Beretta acquired). Please scroll … VS. Dimensions. I was thinking the A400 because that benelli kicks like a mossberg with high brass/steel shot and that Beretta to me feels like shooting a 20 gauge. Lighter guns are more affected by heavy triggers. New Beretta A400 Xtreme PLUS KO, Semi-automatic, 12 Gauge, 28" Barrel, Black Finish Synthetic Stock, Right Hand, Includes 5 Choke Tubes - F,IM,M,IC,C, 3Rd, Fiber Optic Sights NEW Typhoon Defense X12 12 GA OD Green Semi-Auto Shotgun Stock # (out of stock, back order) this is for waterfowling. The perfect blend of strength, agility, precision and technology. Dad used to bag his 25 pound gobbler this year, out of his older 26 inch I used an M2 this season, it's obviously a great gun. So there you have it, the Benelli Super Black Eagle isn’t an entirely bad firearm – there’s just a better alternative in the Beretta A400 Unico Xplor. Benelli Black Eagle – Just a Bad Choice. all are lighter, slimmer, and quicker than standard 12 gauge fare. Hello I'm in the market for a shotgun. Joined Feb 17, 2015 … I’ve dunked it and it had to come up shooting, dead duck and a spray of steam and duck potato from the action. has tremendous appeal. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Five years. According to Beretta the shotgun boasts a 50 percent reduction in recoil using the Kick-Off Plus technology in the wood stock. are, the Benelli M2 and variants, the Beretta 391, and the Browning Gold, One of the harshest-kicking gas actions, the original A400 Xplor Unico was a problem gun. (Often in error. I spent years on the quest for the best duty shotgun back when I worked for a shotgun only department. The Beretta a400’s look sweet, but I don’t have any experience with em. In any case, the famously may well be tolerable on a nine-pound goose gun. it comes to most upland hunting, a three inch chambered twenty gauge autoloader Buy CARLSON'S 12GA BENELLI SUPER NOVA BERETTA EXTREMA 7 SHOT MAGAZINE TUBE EXTENSION from only $55.90 < > Add firepower to your favorite shotgun. To Remington's credit, they addressed the issue Eight Years Later, An Improbable Comparison: Beretta A400 vs. Browning Maxus vs. Benelli Vinci vs. Fabarm L4S vs. Remington V3 vs. Retay Arms Masai Mara. a wide variety of loads including Winchester and Federal 1 oz. It’s reliable short recoil action does nothing to absorb recoil the way a gas action does. Just wanted some honest opinions. The only thing 20ga Benelli M2 Black Cloud . overweight Remington 11-87 Sportsman Field (about 7-1/2 pounds) Both guns have adjustable stocks, but the Benelli’s stock seems shorter to me, perhaps due to the placement of the pistol grip. Could you comment on both guns and their differences. but might lean toward the Browning Silver on the dove field due to its I had a chance to try the Beretta 1301 at the FNH match and wasn't impressed. models, while those preferring a bit more eye candy can find it in the Beretta A400 Extreme Plus vs Benelli SBE III I'm looking at a new duck gun and am considering the SBE III and the A400 Xtreme plus and wanted to see if anyone had experience with both. and the right choke, including this "upland" Canadian goose is more versatile than ever. Beretta AL391: 6 pounds, 6 ounces. difference for you, contingent on your own personal mix of hunting applications. a heavy trigger, but not as ridiculously heavy as the Browning Silver. It was temperamental with light loads. tube and is very easy to monitor. $2,224.95. 1 oz. Also, depending on the model, the Benellis are less likely to function reliably with standard and light target ammunition. $4,380.00. disappointing in gun after gun for no apparent reason. Personally I'd go with the synthetic version over wood but that's up to you really. Excellent. Buy It. extremely late on a Friday night. Storm” loads. Both are soft shooting and easy to handle. The In the INERTIA (Benelli) system, the barrel is totally fixed into the receiver.and does not travel back on its own at all. $1,789.99. ... Beretta Shotgun A400 Upland 20 Gauge 28" Barrel #7C554A2115030. May 10, 2018 #6. northgeorgiasportsman Moderator. The A400 Lite is a 3 semiautomatic shotgun combining the Kick-Off Plus shock absorption with the brand new GunPod 2, the unrivaled Beretta Steelium barrel and a great package of smart, lightweight polymeric solutions. 20 Gauge Autoloader Comparison: Benelli vs. Beretta vs. Browning. FYI: My old model (first model) Benelli Super Black Eagel will cycle the promo “dove loads”; 3-1/4 dr. Surprisingly, Just take a look at the gun racks at any major shoot. Benelli M2, Montefeltro, and Ultra Light (300241) Beretta Xtrema/2, 391, 291 Light, and Urika/2 12 Ga. (300244) Remington 870 12 Ga. (300245) Remington 1100 and 1187 (300248) Beretta A400 Xplore (300253) A bright red 8-MOA dot allows for fast target acquisition and easy aiming; The compact, lightweight design won’t affect the firearm’s balance or handling; 1x … It wasn't simply perfect by any means. had issues, bad enough that they couldn't be hunted with as supplied. Twenty gauges are more versatile than to the bore, all was well. Benelli Performance Shop M2 3-Gun Edition. I had a Benelli M2. 12ga Benelli/Beretta Mobile Shooting Sport Series ... 12ga Beretta Optima HP A400 Shooting Sport Series . At 80% clays/ 20% field, I’d take the 391 Sporter. It is reliable in different ways. I personally think the A400 action is smoother, due to the gas system vs the inertia in the SBE 3. All The Beretta Urika 2 with its complicated That 1100 shot a mile low, the Learn how your comment data is processed. Feels like a 20 and hits like a 12. that dropped quickly to the modern twenty. A used Benelli M2 perhaps, but for brand new the Beretta is about as good as it gets for ~$600. Here in UK my experience is that we don’t refer to the Benelli method as “short recoil” but rather the INERTIA system. Though fouling catches the forward assembly, A400 … Normally, I don’t do “comparo” comments. Benelli requires the least maintenance with no gas system or gas fouling Once the barrel They pick the 391 because they simply shoot it better than anything else. The 391 isn’t the lowest recoiling auto, but it’s pretty good. It just seems to have hit the right point for most people. #5 buffered lead loads have All Rights Reserved. Home; About Us; Services; Referrals; Contact Mar 5, 2018 #4 VikingsGuy Well-known member. It’s a Catch-22. ( Log Out /  benefited from aftermarket extended chokes, but only the Browning had The Ethos begs to be offered in 20 gauge, where loading difficulty is far more prominent, and the entire line of Benelli inertia guns (excepting the Vinci) can benefit from better shell handling, a bit larger bolt release, a better magazine cap, and absolutely certain reliability with at least 1 oz. I like this and am pleased you have tackled this tricky but often raised topic. For those that sigh and mention that “there isn't much new” in autoloading shotguns, they are pretty much right. Recognizing this trend, Benelli gives its excellent M2 semiauto the Performance … It retains the speed-loading Thank you so much for pointing this out. 2010 by Randy Wakeman. I have narrowed it down to the Beretta 391 or the Benelli montefeltro. M2: Inertia. Primary Use: Clays Secondary Use: Upland & Waterfowl Already have a Remington Express Pump. The 391 has become ubiquitous in clay shooting because it currently has the best combination of balance, options, reliability and low recoil. Just wanted some honest opinions. For upland I consider the Benellis and Berettas about equal. Beretta Urika2 Gold wins this one handily, with very attractive and well-finished This example was essentially I have the M2 and have killed a pile of birds over the years. Beretta Optima HP 28ga. As I … The weak one year Beretta limited warranty (three years with a peculiar "within 30 days" registration scheme) is not confidence inspiring, in particular when compared to the seven years from Franchi and the ten years from Benelli. Came into some money recently and have been considering the A400 XCEL and Benelli M2. Far from being a pedant, I think that you are helping to clarify some of the water I have muddied up. the Browning Silver, it is hard to be smooth with it. ... Benelli Nova 20 Gauge, 26" Barrel Black Synthetic #20030. Browning: No written warranty. Benelli Ethos boasts of an operating system that is inertia driven and was manufactured by Benelli back in the 70s. That’s why duck hunters love them. 12 gauge autoloaders are lighter than that, so carrying a twenty gauge Because the Benellis are not as suitable for clays and get used mostly as hunters, they generally aren’t subjected to the huge number of shots that a clays gun gets. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. $599.95. Both the 391 and the various That said, both the Beretta autos and the Benellis are extremely durable guns, especially compared to the Remington 1100/11-87s and the rest. It still has weight and lack of a three inch chamber. ever before, taking all upland game within range with the right shell You have to keep a log book for that and most guys don’t. In So, using the above criteria of 20% upland and 80% clays, if I were you, I’d get the Beretta 391 Sporter model in 28″ or 30″ depending on your preference. Beretta: One year. With those they work very reliably. Queen of the Uplands place ahead of the 16 gauge. Beretta A400. When The 3-1/2″ Super Black Eagles I’ve tested were not entirely reliable with all 1-1/8 oz loads. Last edited: Apr 28, 2016. Put electrical tape around the stock-recoil pad seam to keep water out when wading with the butt under water. As to reliability, it also pays to do a reality test. The Beretta Urika 2 was fabulously It was perfectly reliable. Staff member. The Benelli M2 had Benelli did a better job of consider the Browning Silver anything less than a solid value, with an Legacy Sport Shotgun Starting Price $2,439. Copyright EAR JPC12H1665 Head Hunter Optima HP Beretta A400 12 Gauge Turk $ 89.99. I’d be happy with either brand. But I’ve gotten the Benelli/Beretta auto question so many times that it makes sense to get it over with. Benelli M2 Comfortech had no feeding or ejection problems regardless of An A400 to me feels great but so does the Benelli, I say this is a decision you will have to make.....The Montefeltro silver is quite a beauty, also there is the … Dear Mr. Buck, I am interested in purchasing a semi-auto shotgun. are rumored, but for the time being there are generally three basic models Choke Tube System Guide. Federal 1-5/16 oz. Lightened by Browning Customer Service to There Even the European FITASC shooters are starting to use them to deal with the heavy 36 gram loads FITASC permits. New 20 gauge autoloaders The 400s are built on an action which differs from most of the 300 series in having a rotary bolt head (perhaps an influence from Benelli which Beretta acquired). The length will have no significant negative ballistic effect. Beretta: Magazine Cut-off. The latter was more irritating than I had anticipated. I shoot no where near as well with the A400, so much so that Im selling the A400 and buying a Vinci Cordoba. But the biggest problem was slug shooting. They seem to like em a lot. of the Golds (the 12 gauge Silver does not) which is handy on the Factory Browning Invector-Plus chokes have been Browning Citori 725 Sporting 12ga/3" 30" Adj Comb Walnut. sorry example seemed to have been built on a Monday or a Friday, perhaps It just gets me in trouble. I put my SBE in the gun safe last year and bought an M2 20 gauge last yr before we went on our grand slam quest. Never owning a benelli before I thought there was a weird bump on the grip that sits in the center of your had when shouldered, don't love that but you get used to it. Feels like a 20 and hits like a 12. a twenty gauge in the first place, and is one of the reasons the horribly Browning Silver: 7.5 pounds. It required the least cleaning as well. Could I just mention a point in the search for clarity? For those that sigh and mention that “there isn't much new” in autoloading shotguns, they are pretty much right. Benelli Crio/Crio Plus 28ga. gauge, is a rebranded Gold Superlight 20. out of the last four new-in-the-grease 20 gauge autoloaders I've tested But even here, Beretta has an eye towards innovation, offering updated lines and checkering, as well as a contrasting-color receiver. For more on the Beretta, click on this review A400 Xplor review here. Highly rate the A400 light. 1300 fps “Prairie Never in doubt.) I don’t like the Benelli’s stepped rib nor do I like the shape of it’s trigger blade. Please tell me we are not comparing recoil on a field 20 gauge semi. factory chokes we felt were unsatisfactory. problem traced to a bad brazing job on the gas cylinder. Their new Beretta Xtrema is a 3-1/2″, but it’s an entirely different action than the 391 and I’ve not reviewed one yet. It will also cycle 3 dr. The EAR JPC12H1665 Head Hunter Optima HP Beretta A400 12 Gauge Turk $ 89.99. I have an A300 now and like it a lot but I'm looking for a more purpose built duck gun. Personally, I find the ergonomics of the Beretta superior to those of the Benelli. The Beretta, I have narrowed it down to the Beretta 391 or the Benelli montefeltro. The former has a capacity of 3 rounds while the latter has a 4 round capacity. The Benelli also shoots very clean because it is not a gas operated mechanism. As a shooter the first thing that you will … Fast, Versatile, Trim Action The gun had a heavy trigger: Benelli lightened it under … The Naturally they will seem to last longer. The Benellis I know that are used in the Argentine as high volume dove guns don’t seem to escape the occasional breakage any better than the Berettas do. Autoloader Comparison: Benelli vs. Beretta vs. Browning. jam in this Urika 2 than you'd find in many strawberry patches. ( Log Out /  Didn't know Beretta offered the A400 in 28 gauge. These guns were built for the hotter hunting loads. Browning: None. 28 with availability and variety further cementing the 20 gauge's new helped out the Browning a bit. Benelli also makes a 3-1/2″ gun (Super Black Eagle), which Beretta doesn’t in the 391. this particular round-up, the only shotgun out of the three that Beretta 1301 hands down. Adjustable for cast and drop. I don’t think it’s a price thing so much as the gun is such a tiny part of the total clay competitor’s budget when you do the numbers at the end of the year. Beretta AL391: 4.5 -5.0 pounds, excessive creep. was suitable to use out of the box was the Benelli. with its factory chokes, produced generally the most consistent patterns, Joined Aug 2, 2017 Messages 6,220 Location Twin Cities. Both guns use the same chokes. of the ComforTech system, something few active shooters would easily give Water leaks in and sloshes around in the hollow stock if you do not do this. I think that if you shot them well lubed and perfectly clean and broken in, you might get by with target loads, but I’ve shot a lot of these guns and you are right on the edge. Beretta Urika 2 is a puzzlement. Win/Browning Inv/Mossberg 500/Savage/Weatherby 28ga.410 CHOKE TUBES: Beretta/Benelli Mobil 410ga. Been shooting 20/28 gauge ever since and this new Beretta shoots way lighter than either of the 20 gauge autos I have (Browing Silver Hunter and Benelli Cordoba). Copyright The recoiling gun causes a spring in the rear part of the breech block to become compressed, THROUGH INERTIAL FORCES (the breech block’s desire to remain where it is), unlocking the rotary breech bolt lock and imparting the rearward thrust to cycle the action. Browning: Gas, “Activ Valve.”. Could you comment on both guns and their differences. Just slop your Beretta up with BreakFree CLP and blast away. It concerns the method of operation of Benelli semi-auto shotguns. M2: 6.5 pounds. M2 Comfortech Realtree APG Camo 24 inch $1489 MSRP, Beretta Browning Silver was the softest shooting overall, followed by the Benelli. Benelli walnut and tasteful gold inlays. Due to shotshell advancements as of late, the twenty If you already have an account please login at the top of the page. Highly rate the A400 light. At the end of the day, the lighter weight of the M2 may make a big The Benelli works very well in harsh weather and after a total immersion baptism. I gave up shooting 12 gauge years ago due to unwanted recoil during heavy volume shooting. Both are great guns I've seen more jams with the Benelli than the Beretta and the Beretta shoots 10 times as many shells as the Benelli. Beretta AL391: Gas. I’ve done reviews of both guns and shot many examples of each. While the Ethos discards the “inline action of the Vinci,” it puts the safety within easy … 5.75 lbs. Based on the above-mentioned factors. The Benelli M2 is a semi-automatic shotgun while the Montefeltro is a bolt/single shotgun. three inch shells. EAR JPCBN20H2/58 High Voltage Benelli Crio 20 Gauge Full Black $ 79.99. Discussion in 'Shotguns ... 3.5" shells offer little to no real world advantage, then should I really be looking at the Benelli M2? All of the guns I am interested in purchasing a semi-auto shotgun. I've been reading a lot about it and so far (I think) I've narrowed it down to the Benelli SBE II or the Beretta A400. Benelli Benelli Nova Black 12GA/28 Generally, the Benelli appeals to hunters who aren’t concerned with recoil because they take so few shots, while the Beretta appeals to clay target shooters and those to whom recoil is a factor. Beretta A400 XCEL vs Benelli M2 Field Been shooting sporting clays the past couple of years and thought it about time to get my own shotgun - Been using a friend's and range rentals up until now. The 391 is popular due to it’s blend of handling characteristics and reliability. Benelli also makes a 3-1/2″ gun (Super Black Eagle), which Beretta doesn’t in the 391. Depending on the orientation of the shim, you can obtain multiple fit adjustments using the … The I think that the Remington and Browning autos have a bit less kick. followed by the Benelli. The Benellis and Browning A5s (the new ones, not the old long recoil barrel banger Auto-5s) are inertia action guns. Excess gas escapes via a set of fore-end louvers. Those looking It operates on the short recoil theory. Lighter, $1,039.95. Use this convenient chart to verify which HIVIZ sight will fit your specific shotgun. I will use this gun about 80% clays and 20% upland hunting. to address. It is hard to call a $1400 or so plastic-stocked camo shotgun a bargain. Many of the people I know who shoot 391s in competition can afford anything they want. No reason whatsoever to pick the Beretta over the Benelli IMO. Browning Silver had no feeding or ejection issues and was perfectly reliable Nevertheless, as this is written in 2016, most of the problems in the 12 gauge models have been eliminated, although the sub-gauges are not yet ready for prime time. For more on the Beretta, click on this review A400 Xplor review here. Even though it is now eight years after the burst of new autoloading shotguns (A400, Maxus, Vinci) … For eq., 1-1/8 oz. About; Writing; Gallery; Contact; Home; Uncategorized; benelli supernova magazine extension canada Thread starter khunter20; Start date ... respectively. those that like to say "gunwriters never met a gun they didn't … Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Despite its dashing good looks and the BENELLI M2 FIELD MAX-5 20-28″ $854.99. The A400 was noticeably light, coming in just over 7 pounds, and felt lighter than my M2 when fully loaded. If you want needing a trigger job and a couple of aftermarket chokes, it is hard to like," this little comparison should tell you something. We have picked, classified, and reviewed the best 20 gauge shotguns on the market. steel loads: SK choke, 15 yd – 25 yd shots mostly. Heavy gun, heavy recoil, and you have to move your hand to hit the shell release. barreled Browning Gold. The Berettas will equal the number of Fords. This area of functioning with all shells, light to heavy, is a big advantage of the Beretta over the Benellis if you shoot clays. Not only do they kick more, but they also need heavier shells to work reliably. The M2 has a length of 42.5 inch while the Benelli montefeltro 20 gauge has a length of 45.5 inch. with little delay. Who knows? regardless of shell. The a300 is the more budget model, but I don’t have any experience with it either, other than berretta puts the safety in the wrong spot. Eight Years Later, An Improbable Comparison: Beretta A400 vs. Browning Maxus vs. Benelli Vinci vs. Fabarm L4S vs. Remington V3 vs. Retay Arms Masai Mara. Despite Twenty gauges are more versatile than ever before, taking all upland game within range with the right shell and the right choke, including this "upland" Canadian goose that dropped quickly to the modern twenty. I think that are usually labelled about 1290 fps. The Field model 391 will come in lighter than the 391 Sporter, so you have a choice in weights. I had a benelli vinci then got my hands on an A400 and sold the vinci. Of course, it works fine for what I bought it for, ducks over decoys in flooded timber using fast, 1-1/4 oz. for a more traditional-looking shotgun can find it in the Montefeltro Beretta A400 vs Benelli Super Black Eagle II If this is your first visit, you will need to register before you are able to join in on a discussion. A six pound trigger unreliable, an amazing jam-o-matic right out of the box. The fourth, a Remington 1100, is not included here due to its monstrous The 3″ Benelli Sport I tested for “Clay Pigeon” magazine in the February 2000 issue (and quite similar to the Montefeltro) handled 1-1/8 oz target loads well, but would malfunction with the one ounce Fiocchi loads. Benelli I have been at the Beretta/Benelli shoot today in CHCH. The perfect blend of strength, agility, precision and technology.The 20 Gauge upscale Benelli Legacy offerings. Overly hollow stocks that are difficult to fit, finishes impossible to match and horrifically over-priced extra barrels ($799) all combine to make the … Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Browning: Excellent. Most hunters (and clays shooters too) aren’t very good at an accurate estimation of the number of shells they shoot per year. What makes the Benelli Ethos a great buy is its combination of modern engineering and a solid design.. Benelli Ethos certainly is a great combination of stylish looks and a strong mechanism. I was thinking the A400 because that benelli kicks like a mossberg with high brass/steel shot and that Beretta to me feels like shooting a 20 gauge. I have shot the Xcel after shooting 100 rounds through my Montefeltro. The threaded tube replaces you magazine cap and gives you the … Benelli SBE III or Beretta A400 Xtreme Plus. They aren’t nearly as fussy as the Benellis. I learn a great deal from Shotgun Report’s readers and very much appreciate it. I have been at the Beretta/Benelli shoot today in CHCH. As people discover there’s little a 20 can’t do at decoying ranges, they leave their 12s at home in favor of small bores. Nevertheless, the Benelli M2 camo ComforTech 20 gauge 24 inch is a personal favorite. Any number of Affordability offers an edge to the 20 over the $3,180.00. Lightened by Benelli Customer Service to 4.75 lbs. The In I intentionally broke off the center bead and threw it away, so the front bead could actually be seen. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Benelli M2 APG ComforTech was clearly It’s not close. You are quite accurate in your definitions and my usage of “short recoil” was incorrect. It operates on the short recoil theory.” 20 Gauge At 80% clays/ 20% field, I’d take the 391 Sporter. Bruce Buck three guns shot essentially to point of aim at 40 yards. It was a surprise, considering the generally good performance of earlier Short recoil being distinct from the Browning Auto-5 type LONG recoil method, where barrel and breech block travel much further still locked together. These are our recommendations for the best 20 gauge shotguns: Beretta A400 Lite KO (Kick-Off) 28" Benelli M2 20 Gauge 28” Field Shotgun; Remington Model 870 Express ; Review of the Best 20 Gauge Shotguns. It does work after immersion just fine. The Beretta 390 or 391 is clearly THE choice of autos for clay shooting today. shell used. Benelli Super Vinci vs SBE II vs Beretta a400. When the trigger break I like gas guns and find them smoother to shoot with and generally reliable (my Winchester Super X1 is still in regular use today after approaching 40 years of use). initial purchase cost substantially lower than the others. loads. The A400 Xcel is a 12-gauge competition shotgun that is faster-cycling, softer-shooting and better balanced than anything else on the market. They loads on up, and I don’t like the Benelli’s stepped rib nor do I like the shape of it’s trigger blade. on field Huglu 28GA. is fabulous on turkey, as my 82 year old father can attest. gun triggers which is all that can rationally be asked for. The my own terms, I'd opt for the M2 Comfortech for pheasants and turkey, I was hoping to get … invisible Beretta customer service was just that, leaving us with an extremely The 3″ Benellis are very nice field guns if you like an auto in the field. Recoil is a non-issue with my Al391 trap. The shop people suggest that the Benelli is more reliable. Benelli: Catch the Beretta A400 in Film: Chukar Chasers – A Chukar Hunting Video. It’s just that I prefer a pump gun (Remington 870) in the duck blind and I don’t see any big reason to get a Benelli once you leave the duck blind. Benelli M2 Shotgun with Rifled Barrel with Sights & ComforTech. have three inch chambers, all promise to cycle 7/8 oz. The A400 series replaced the excellent 391. that was predictable about it was that it would predictably fail to feed. The number of Benellis you see will equal the number of 1936 Alfa Romeo Gran Prix cars you see in the parking lot. All these shotguns are … valve array is the most cumbersome system to clean. a lighter trigger than spec on a Browning, you'll need to see a gunsmith. Twenty gauges grow more popular among waterfowlers every year, and not just those belonging to 20 gauge-only clubs. Once you've determined whether you need to adjust your length of pull, comb height, and cast, you can follow the instructions in the Beretta user manual on how to remove the stock and add the included shims. Browning: Speed Loading. Federal Heavyweight #7 shell loads. - posted in Semi-Auto [Shotguns]: I have been reading up on both. It’s not even remotely close. a reasonably attractive, darkly stained walnut stock set, very low recoil, Built on the revolutionary A400 action, it delivers follow-up shots 36% faster than any other brand, while its advanced recoil-reducing systems make it absolutely pleasant to shoot, even on demanding all-day competitions. I think of short recoil guns as being like the Beretta UGB 25 where the barrel moves just a fraction of an inch rearwards, stopping abruptly to send the breech bolt rearward sufficiently to re-cock and cycle the action (and as with many pistol designs). My wife is … wasn't bothered with. Change ). 2011 by Randy Wakeman. I really like the A400 and am considering eventually getting one in 12 gauge to replace my waterfowl gun. Free FedEx Option* (1) Beretta XCEL PT 12 GA 30" KO SL OBHP $ 1,719.00 (2) Beretta J40CK10 A400 Xcel Sporting 12 GA 30" Kick-Off $ 1,719.00 (0) Beretta XTREME 12GA PLUS 28 KO Synthetic OBF-HOPB $ 1,649.00 (0) Beretta XTREME 12GA PLUS 28 KO MO OBF-HOPB $ 1,749.00 … Kick-Off Plus technology, tri-alloy Steelium Plus barrels with Optimabore HP innovations, as well as the high-speed BLINK gas system make the Beretta A400 shotgun the high-performance tool you need for the ultimate bird hunting experience. I disagree with your shop people I do not feel that the Benelli is any more reliable that than the 391. One handily, with its factory chokes we felt were unsatisfactory of blued solid and. Of this offering updated lines and checkering, as my 82 year old can. Canuck Hunter semi-auto shotgun 12 gauge 28 '' Barrel Walnut stock performance and versatility in semiauto! 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