But do you know how to properly use them? If thats the camp you hunt from, have at it, but understand that with the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, every time you pull the trigger you will get smacked with about 45 foot-pounds of recoil. If youre one of those all-American .30-caliber guys, get a 30 Nosler precision rifle with a good brake, pair it with a tough, accurate bullet and never look back. Also around 30 Mule Deer, It kills them dead!!! The effective range of a bullet can be measured in different ways because it depends on what the bullet needs to be effective at doing. Just about any 180-grainer will do, since the .30-06 doesnt produce bullet-destroying velocities. A 264 needs slow burning powder, anything faster than H-4831 is to fast for the 264 with 140gr bullets. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Tapered Copper-Alloy Jacket For lethal penetration and uniform expansion with maximum weight-retention and minimal barrel fouling. when I was a kid and poor I always wanted a 264 win. The 140-grain projectile is fairly streamlined, providing acceptable aerodynamics, and it has a protected tip (meaning only a bit of exposed lead, a tiny flat meplat where the bullet initiates negotiations with its target). Yes. I've taken more Elk with my 25-06 than with my larger bore guns. It offers shocking good performance in a beltless, standard-length case and is becoming the go-to, extreme-range hunting cartridge. Mag., and it really comes into its own with carefully developed high-performance handloads. All three are excellent choices for long-range hunting ammo.. Having said that, it will not be my first choice. For elk, pick a really tough bullet and if possible, pick broadside shots. . If you have another rifle ---- .30-06 or hotter, use that instead. Every indication is last years 129 gr held up to its stated bc. Of course, a good handload in the 7mm would close the gap and certainly surpass the 6.5mm projectile in energy, but the comparison shows just how good the .264 is. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I wouldn't feel handicapped with one provided I used the right bullet. } Mark R Dobrenski. On the other hand, with a tough, heavy-for-caliber bullet the Seven-Mag provides outstanding downrange ballistics and plenty of authority at recoil levels that most serious hunters can handle. At my home elevation of 5,000 feet, calculated with a temperature of 50 degrees and 50 percent humidity, with all loads zeroed at 200 yards, we get the following ballistic projections: The .264 Win. I once bought a 25-06 off a guy who told me that the caliber was too light for whitetail. 300 Win. My 8mm Remington Magnum was stocked in dense walnut and had a long barrel. Later I switched to a 140gr Berger for deer at 2914fps. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. Maintained energy is 1,703 ft-lbs at 500 yards and 1,156 at 800. For that, the Bergers are perfect. I'd hunt that rifle. It will go faster, but that's where I'm getting the best groups,. Distance capabilityreachis all about the sister virtues of speed and aerodynamics. Note that the .264 Win. It requires a true magnum-length action, and is hard on barrels. The Swede is popular with pragmatic traditionalists, but, like the 6.5-284 Norma, suffers from minimal ammo options plus relatively throttled velocities. Probably not.. Was shooting Hornady 129gr InterBond at 3130FPS. For example, having 1,500 ft-lbs of energy to kill a bull elk is a decent barometer, but elk have also been killed with far less energy when excellent shot placement and good bullet construction are in play. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk? font-family: Arial, sans-serif; memtb. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge, topped with a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. Add to cart. JavaScript is disabled. load drops 35 inches at 500 yards and 137 at 800, and the 10-mph wind causes it to drift 16 inches at 500 yards and 45 inches at 800. The 6.5 has cut considerably into the sales of so called main stream cartridges of the past. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. was an extraordinary cartridge. 50 Stck NOSLER Partiton #16320 Geschosse 6,5MM/.264 - 125gr/8,1g > Jagdgeschoss 70% Restgewicht! The 6.5 Grendel was designed to be fired from the AR-15 platform to enhance the lethality of the rifle while the 6.5 Creedmoor was designed to be fired from bolt-action rifles for long-range shooting competitions. Comments have to be approved before showing up, 2023 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .264 Winchester Magnum for Elk Hunting? Weight and Optics Elk hunting can be extremely physicalnot only steep country, but also altitude and sometimes deep snow to buck. font-size: 18px; Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Unless you really like this particular rifle or simply want a .264 it is not that much diff than your current offering. border-style: solid; 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Sure, some experts have even gone beyond what we consider the max distance. bought new in 1964 & still shoots great.. The .264 Winchester Magnum is a 6.5mm cartridge that was ahead of its time when created in 1958. Excl. My load is 65 grains of Imr7828 Winchester brass and federal 215M primers. Campfire Ranger. Mag. font-size: 18px; . If you want to use the 6.5 PRC for elk hunting, the additional couple hundred ft-lbs of kinetic energy the cartridge provides will certainly come in handy. text-align: center; cannot measure up to the .338 Win. Mag. I guess I should have worded my post better. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk? "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. Its inherently accurate, making long-range shots easier. Mag. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. Shaw barrels) currently produce factory rifles chambered in .264 Win. I think there are only about 5 respondents that have personal experience with the .264 WIn Mag. You'd have thought with . A new stainless feather weight M70 in 264 will be available this fall. Its all highly situational, but it matters. Features and Specifications: Manufacturer Number: 80633. This is a long range forumthus what terminal performance you expect on a shoulder spine hit at 10-300 yards and respective velocity does not apply for 500-850 yard shots. Hornady 180-grain GMX and 200-grain ELD-X. Pretty darn confident to use it to fill all of the tags this year, including the cow elk. border-color: #656565; Make sure to watch till the end. Joined: Apr 2001. mag . load drops 35 inches at 500 yards and 132 at 800. However, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether the .264 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk. Much like the .30-06, the .270 Winchester is an all-around workhorse. Unlike the predecessors .458, .264 and .338 Winchester Magnums it has a longer case and a rather short neck (.264") in order to increase the case capacity. I never kept another one in a deer. It's all copper with an expanding nose. 264 Winchester Magnum Uses: The 264 Win Mag can be used on just about any game found in the lower 48 states, as follows - Predators: Such As, Bobcat, Cougar, And Coyote. Shaw barrels), A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. It still will shoot under an inch. Pick a Marlin M1895 or a Winchester Model 1886 and hunt happy in the knowledge that youve got bull-thumping wallop in every thumb-sized cartridge. Muzzle Velocity: 2,900 fps Muzzle Energy: 3,267 ft/lbs It's so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this. Initially chambered in Winchester's "Westerner" Model 70, it was meant to fill the needs of far-shooting mule deer and elk hunters. I use a Federal ballistic tip in my 308 for whitetails that I wouldn't use for elk because it seems a bit too fragile based on the deer I've taken with it. A cartridge that starts a slippery bullet with plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability. The 6.5 Creedmoor, with its .264-inch bullet, was designed as a long-range target cartridge because at modest velocity with low recoil, it could take advantage of the 6.5's heavy-for-caliber bullets, and with a short case designed for accuracy, it could handle long bullets in a short bolt action. You should always start low & work up. It slipped into a coma in the mid-1960s and has been at death's door ever since. I was thinking of trying Hornady 140 grain SST. What is the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum? Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. Mag. Short awnser is YES. Please opine on this for me guys as I have always been a 30 cal slut. Practical distance isnt the same as the max distance a rifle can shoot. vertical-align: top It'll maintain nearly 100% of its weight and plow an impressive furrow. UPS has officially stopped shipping guns? Got a cow a few years back at 330 yards with mine. As far as ammo goes, both Winchester and Remington still produce .264 Win. If you hunt elk in grizzly-infested country, a rifle chambered in .338 is comforting. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Every effective range calculation will, by its nature, be only a broad approximation. 2 grains and fire another 10 rounds. Ammunition can be found at every small-town hardware store across America. Heart and lungs were mush. It's like a quite round that is not flash or get a lot of attention, but hits a sweet spot that is often over looked. Mag. Heck, it still is, especially when handloaded to its full potential. And it came in affordable M70 rifles. The .264 Winchester Magnum is a powerful, fast killing, highly effective medium game cartridge and does so out to long ranges. But, because elk have big antlers and big bodies, some hunters believe it takes an even bigger bullet to kill them. T. tw264 OP. One of my hunting buddies has a 6.5Creedmoor and was telling me on a mule deer hunt how much better it was than my chambering, going to take it elk hunting as well. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 . UPS has officially stopped shipping guns? It will break heavy bone, penetrate deep and straight, and kill quickly and cleanly. Average accuracy is an acceptable 1.54 inches. 6.5 CM, 260, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 SAUM yours, all have killed elk. The .264 Win. While this does protect the bullet from deformation during recoil and during travel up the feedramp and into the chamber, its more important function is to limit potentially explosive expansion (as a result of high velocity) upon impact. The .264 Winchester Magnum is like a beautiful, unloved stepchild. The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? bullet (especially in premium) in 6.5 won't? Remington's 7mm Mag. If for a brief fraction of a second everything is lined up and you in that instant know you got it, take the shot. text-align: center To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. With the right bullet, a .270 will put down any bull walking the earth today. 300 Win Mag.Perfect for Elk? 20 Round Box. padres hats. But, credit where credit is due, its a great elk cartridge. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. (Ret.) .tg .tg-xhut { Long Range Hunting & Shooting .264 Win Mag for Elk ebueker Apr 11, 2009 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member 1 2 3 Next E ebueker Member Joined Mar 4, 2008 Messages 6 Apr 11, 2009 #1 I'm getting 3100 fps using 140 gr Berger VLDs. Would be a great project rifle to put a proper barrel on. Over 30 ft-lbs - Massive recoil that can be difficult for even seasoned shooters to shoot accurately. That's faster than a 130-grain projectile out of the .270 Winchester, giving .264 Win. Mag. The retained weight will be higher than the jacketed bullet, thus during the impact will act like a heavier bullet than the 140g. Mag., though Remington did feature the cartridge in the Model 700 Classic at one point (and those rifles are reputed to shoot very well). You might want to consider taking a second rifle as a backup. 264 would be very close to your 280 you already have. The 264 mag with one of the ultra slow powders will drive the Barnes 120gr TSX at 3450 to 3500fps from a 26" Bbl. The entrance hole through the rib cage was about 6"x3". Now think about the advanced powders & bullets available to the hunter of today like the Barnes TSX/TTSX. Mag. DRT. font-size: 18px; It was my choice when I drew a limited entry Utah tag and dropped a 402 B&C gross (official) non-typical with one 180-grain Federal TBT. The 142 accubond LR will be a nice addition but I doubt the bc is that high. one of my favorite places. Shot him thru the neck at 175 years and down he went. Tough bullets, deep penetration. Mag. Attacking the 264 shows just how much popularity it is gaining. slipped quietly into near-obsoletion. Beyond that distance, it doesnt carry the steam of the faster cartridges listed here. First, the average bullet weight is encapsulated in the average muzzle energy for the .264 Winchester Magnum. It should be a great gun. Its plenty gun for elk. Joined: Dec 2004. If I add to that a gusty 25 mph wind, Im not shooting past 200 yards. Damn elk are tough! in 1999 and it was the first cartridge from the 30-caliber. 264 Winchester Magnum / Specifications: Found one bullet between the skin and opposite shoulder, perfect mushroom but it didnt slow her down much. A 90-degree, 10-mph crosswind causes it to drift 11 inches at 500 yards and 29 inches at 800. . Dont cripple yourself with a moderate-velocity cartridge that doesnt handle heavy, high-ballistic-coefficient projectiles well. In addition to expanding reliably, a bullet must carry sufficient energy to take down the animal. Right up front, this is a short-range proposition. No matter if it's shot from a 6.5, 270, or 7mm they don't go far. Another limiting point is how well you judge distance. Perhaps my hunting rifle and bullet combo are capable of shooting 550-yards. It will drive this 120gr TSX bullet completely thru an elk even at an acute angle. Of course those stories exist, and they are not disputed here. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. The rest of the world has know about the ability of the 6.5 for over a century while the US hunter is just recently understanding it's capability. Used to use the Nosler 140gr partition at 3200+ but have found the Barnes 120gr TSX will out penetrate it. First off if you have at least a 26" barrel on your rifle the muzzle velocity will be much better than that listed in most data because it is done mostly with 24" barrels. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. If you insist on using a .264 for elk, go with 140gr Partitions or A-Frames (130 gr Accubonds or Sciroccos, minimum). } I ICANHITHIMMAN For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Dozens of indignant elk hunters sent up a wail when the first elk cartridges article went live on F&Sbecause I hadnt included their .300 RUM favorite. One of the nice things about not buying a new pickup every few years is going to Africa. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Im not an elk hunter, but I have followed this page for years and have seen a lot of people on here and other places harvest elk. When used in any of our 6.5's it gives complete penetration. Good luck and happy safe hunting/shooting. It does not penetrate like the Accubond but has never let me down either. Most all game taken has been with the first shot.Any time a second shot has been required has been rare. For excessively rugged, steep-canyon elk country such as Idahos River Of No Return wilderness, such a rifle could mean the difference between steaks and tag soup. .tg .tg-4q2i { You must log in or register to reply here. (Of course, it costs more, too.) Unless you can train as a sniper time and money wiseyour initial intuition was correct. Re: 264 Win Mag If you go with 264, then load it like a magnum, that is the whole purpose of having a 264 magnum. It weighed 59 grains. I shot my best muley with my 264WM at 180 yards at a hard quartering angle with a 140gr Accubond started at 3000fps. mag well now I have 2 both in pre-64 model 70 Winchesters ! They were hollowpoint varmint bullets! A good marksman will not squeeze the trigger unless he believes it will work. Maybe not the ideal caliber but if you're good with the rifle it'll do the job. border-width: 1px; The standard (.30-06) length .264 Winchester Belted Magnum has always been considered overbore and a barrel burner and the recent (2014) .26 Nosler, based on a Remington Ultra Mag case shortened to .30-06 length and necked-down, has greater case capacity (approximately 96 grains of water) than the .264. Originally Posted by RED53. have tough rows to hoe since they've been around since the 1960s and haven't exactly caught fire. Mag., and does so out of shorter barrels. Do you plan to hit every animal with a rangefinder? I think he is shooting a 140 Berger, but not totally sure on that. Not a ton of extra horsepower or overkill but plenty if things are right. Since the Barnes "X" came out & now the TSX the 120gr has been my bullet of choice. is a legitimate niche cartridge that does what it does better than any other American cartridge. I was taught as long as they're standing, put another round in. while they work great at closer ranges, they will fail miserably if you want to push your shots out there. Its an old caliber that some would call a dinosaur and something of an a oddball, but it seems, on paper and the merits of others experiences, to be able to do a lot without crazy recoil. word-break: normal; There's an old saying attributed to elk guides. background-color: #efefef; Factory ammo performs neck and neck with the legendary .300 Win. I have used the 7x57 160gr X bullet for a one shot kill on a cape buff at 142 paces but doubt it would open up much at 500 yards going 1375fps. The E-Tip bullet is another great option for deep penetration. Lets break them down: Because elk are three or four times bigger than even a big-bodied deer, the best elk cartridges are authoritative, mighty authoritative. 3-groove barrels are reputed to last a little longer than barrels with more grooves. 2 Voll konische Kupferlegierungsjacke . } The 10-mph wind causes it to drift 14 inches at 500 yards and 39 inches at 800. tax. He said it "blew up" on their shoulder. Second shot entered the right ham and through the 'near' shoulder. padding: 10px 5px; Superformance is safe to use in ALL firearms, including semi-autos, lever gun and pump actions. The next day the same rifle took a 5x5 bull at 400 yds with ease. Yeah, your post is vindicated. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. Deer Size Game: Such As, Antelope, Blacktail Deer, Hogs, Javelina, Mule Deer, And Whitetail Deer. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Though it's more than a half-century old, the .264 Winchester Magnum is one of the few niche cartridges that is as yet unsurpassed by the motley assortment of modern magnums. It is based on a necked-down .338 Winchester Magnum case and uses a .264 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those seeking accuracy and performance at extended shooting distances. What is the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum? That performance level is my personal minimum on elk. Mag. Leave the .338 Lapua etc. Its extremely versatile with a broad selection of bullet weights, and with the right bullet is a great long-range performer. BTW, 264 WM and Berger bullets seem like kind of an odd combination in my book, unless this a coyote rig. Hard on barrels? A. Im not talking about self-doubt or simply asking yourself what if I miss. Hornady ELD-X and Barnes LRX both will expand at 1600 fps. One of these is the . Partitions, AccuBond or Barnes, all good bullets. Bought my first 264 , a Rem 700 in 1964. Rate now. The only elk I have taken was at about 150 yards with a .260, using 140 gr. Winchester's current Model 70s feature 26-inch tubes, Shaw rifles are available with whatever length the purchaser wants, and the Remington 700 Classic had a 24-inch barrel. They shoot really well. load drops only 29 inches at 500 yards and 109 inches at 800. !20 years ago"Karamojo Bell" ( Walter Dalrymple Maitland ) took numerous elephant's & over 400 head of every type of African plains game with the 6.5MS using 160gr solids & 159gr RSN bullets at barely 2300fps. Recoil is brisk, and barrel life will likely be short. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? You are using an out of date browser. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Pushing heavy bullets at well over 3,000 fps, it hits elk like a freight train. Handloaders easily equal or outdo factory-load performancesomething that cant be said of the other fast .30s listed here. Corelokt. . Heavier bullets of greater diameter. .270 Win. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Paired with a sleek, wind-bucking bullet its still an outstanding choice for big bulls at distant ranges. Maintained energy is 1,383 ft-lbs at 500 yards and 880 ft-lbs at 800. Here we have leaned conservative by taking the average weight of a male individual of the species, since females generally weigh less and require less stopping power. I am getting a 264 with 1:9 twist barrel and plan to reload for it. Mag. I just acquired one and have never played in the 6.5 mm game much. The elk took two to put down for good. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? He dropped in his tracks, then stood back up facing away. When used in any of our 6.5's it gives complete penetration. In researching this story, I determined the muzzle energy data by choosing the most useful elk bullet weight for each specific cartridge, and then plugging it into JBMballistics.com along with an average of common factory-ammo muzzle velocities with that bullet weight. So why is it included? Also, Norma and Woodleigh offer a few bullets in the 150s to 160 with decent BCs (no round nose). have been proven in the elk woods from Kentucky to British Columbia. Any of the good 140 gr and up bullets will do just fine. No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's. A good .30-06 is a 99% solution. Re: 264 Win Mag for hunting, what do you think. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. font-size: 14px; Proprietary Bonding Process Mine likes the 142's and RL 33. There is a difference between "minimum" and "optimal". That is a good elk rifle. The .270 Win. The number on the chart below is the distance in yards at which this standard is no longer met. Is the .264 Winchester Magnum a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? Pick a good bullet, shoot accurately, and enjoy the fine dining elk provides. The third assumption is that a projectile with appropriate terminal ballistics is being used, which for hunting usually means an expanding bullet. 264 Winchester Magnum; 27 Nosler; 270 Weatherby Magnum; 270 winchester ammo; 270 winchester short magnum; 275 Rigby; Every good elk cartridge has three primary characteristics: authority, reach, and good bullets. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Too many statistics make my head hurt, and they surely can be used to misrepresent facts, but let me try and simplify this and compare one good, aerodynamic .264 Win. The primary difference between the 6.5 Grendel and 6.5 Creedmoor is the rifles they were designed for. 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