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IFS/C International Flare Signal Co.* Reading books on Lee-Enfield rifles, investigating their proofmarks and regimental markings, and exploring their developmental history is all part of the fun. And a little earlier in time .50 cal LS Red River Arsenal (Lone Star Div.) D.D.E. 700m iron sight, 6x42 XL76 37mm ARWEN L.V. Magazine Lee-Enfield I believe this distinction is repeated on a large number of my rifles. R.A. Royal Artillery I really appreciate it. Rifle, Short Magazine Lee- The crown and GR are govt markings- arms of the British Crown were the property of the Monarch, ya know- In this case, GR stands for George Rex (King George) 1942 is date of manufacture, SMLE is Short Magazine Lee Enfield. Manufacturer's Monograms for ammunition production Vickers Armstrong, Erith Click here and we'll show you how to ID your oiler type in three steps. A.R. L.S. Commissary-General of It's easy! WGA Wagga Wagga, NSW VY/C Viliroy M.L.E. L65 ? Machine carbine I had a Sporter I got cheap and had a hard time getting any groups better than 5-6" @ 100 yds. E-mail idskennerton@hotmail.com Places that will have the serial information is on the bolt, receiver and normally the barrel. Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 23/04/1918 WARLOY-BAILLON COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION France ' KAM Kamloops (Royal Canadian Navy) equivalent Automatic Rifle) 5. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. It can get a little confusing! If you are fortunate enough to own a Lee-Enfield rifle or bayonet that is unit marked, congratulations! C.O.W. 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band. 'BUYER'S GUIDE to the LEE-ENFIELD' . L103 DP L85 (SA 80) Braendlin Armoury Co. Ltd. facility at the Royal Armouries in Leeds is well under way. as 12.7mm L2A1, ME Maribyrnong, Vic. L42A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, conversion of .303 No. (also Maribyrnong) JO/C Johnstown The mark and type of rifle will be stamped onto the left side receiver wall. Small Arms Inspectorate Dept. B. HAL Halifax (Royal Canadian Navy) R.O.F. L4A1 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion (X10E1) with Mk I bipod & steel contemporary references are listed here for newcomers (and old hands too?) C.I.E. (Woolwich) These stampings will tell the observer: Rifles manufactured outside of a government contract for commercial sale will not have this type of marking on the buttsocket and most likely will only have the factorys name stamped in its place, such as BSA Co. D.R.A.C. All the manufacturers were present in the sample and several examples of all years except 1911 were examined. Royal Carriage Department P.L.H. S.R. Several examples similar to the original post were examined (where there were post WWI barrels installed on earlier receivers) and they shared many similarities - in particular uneven, sometimes very uneven serial number stamping on the barrel.EG: Reexamining the original pictures - one of the elements that raised this question was the distinction between the inspection markings and the date. HDN Helidon, Qld. Occupied Countries during World War 2 Mean point of impact are UK stations) WGA Wallangarra, Qld. Small Arms of World War 2' lists makers and codes on R.F.G. MEP Maribyrnong, Vic. issues re-printed in 5 vols., 1860-1926. DK Deer Park, Vic. Historic Arms Resource Centre; http://www.rifleman.org.uk . Designations found on drawings: dailyinfo[22]=' Major Thomas Archibald BATCHELOR Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Force Cross No. Not bad for a rifle I was going to use as a parts rifle! Rifle fine grain (for M.-H. rifles) Magazine Lee-Enfield Carbine L89A1 9mm Instructional Automatic Pistol. they are not. Known Fact: originally built at Lithgow in 1943 or Refurbished at Lithgow in 1943, was used at some point by the Ministry of Defense. A.P./I. B.W.X. General Order dailyinfo[30]=' 35346 Private Stuart Bathurst Scott COATES 13th Bn. L25A1 Rifle Instructional, training version of L1A1. Canterbury Regiment, N.Z.E.F. Surplus Rifle; http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=27 .. Wikipedia Lee Enfield; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield Wikipedias entry on Lee Enfields. G.O. Machine gun British Engineering R.O.F. Large grain C.C.I. who died 05/04/1918 AUCHONVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY France ' Enfield .45-70 Magazine 5 round RM57 Type a description for this product here. MEC (propellant) Maribyrnong Cordite 2) which arms factory manufactured the rifle, 4) what Number (type or model) of rifle it is and. Accuracy International Sniper Rifle A compendium of more than 135 known marks observed on Lee-Enfield oilers. http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html .. Name says it all, excellent, thorough site. Belgian Remaining velocity ranging gun. e.g. have been awarded an L-series designation. However I would also contend that HV was also stamped on post 1910 new production rifles, not just older modified ones - tomorrow I can survey a reasonable sample and report back but as I noted above, I checked 7 or 8 I had to hand this evening and all the wartime dated receivers had it. Cavalry Carbine A.P./T. MQ Rocklea, Qld. G.V.Y. OOP Oak Ordnance Plant G.S. Defence Industries Ltd. Director General of Artillery Chief Inspector of Small Arms Anti-tank MS (gun ammo) Salisbury No. (S.A.A.) MH Hendon, Vic., No.3 WW1 British Army Lance Corporals Cloth Chevron Insignia Rank Stripes (#256012841881), - WW1 WW2 Lee-Enfield British Rifle Collectors Guide Identification Book Markings. A.D.D. No. if (month<10) month="0"+month dailyinfo[24]=' 2503969 Sapper Joseph WATERS Canadian Railway Troops who died 24/04/1921 BUTTE (MOUNT MORIAH) CEMETERY United States of America ' var daym=mydate.getDate() 1, S.M.L.E Marks III & III* & No. L48A1 37mm (1.5 in.) D.D. A.C. Nomenclature 1. CTW Charters Towers, Qld. L54A1 .303 DP variant of the Bren LMG. I know pretty much nothing about rifles but I picked this one up in a trade. A.C. Army circular e.g. L29A2 .22 Sportco Model 71S Trainer I agree try FB .312" & see. Naval service I have some comments about markings that are present or not present. Each book has detailed drawings of every part, from the original through all the later changes. C3 rifle7.62mm Parker Hale M82 Sniper Rifle in Canadian Includes; sling fitting, loading, cleaning, wrapping a pull-through and introduction to bayonet variants. French Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians, "The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved". Thanks for the reference. Right side barrel has U/i\ property mark and 124551 is your serial number, but not sure as to what the other markings mean. Two Swiss codes are noted. FWA(B) Byford, WA (for Royal Navy) 3. Enfield Enforcer; https://modernfirearms.net/en/sniper-rifles/standart-caliber-rifles/great-britain-standart-caliber-rifles/enfield-l42a1-i-enforcer-eng/ . L99to L101? These were introduced in LOC 15638 dated 1 October 1911 to govern alterations to existing rifles and new manufacture. Australian, Canadian & US monograms from the late Frank Adlam's records var month=mydate.getMonth()+1 M.P.R. Later FTR was stamped or engraved on the body. BGT Bogan Gate, NSW bodies of 19th century vintage firearms. Hendon No. L102A1 Pistol, Automatic (Walther P5 Compact) S.M.R.C. L47A1 7.65mm Pistol, Walther PP. L91 9mm Submachine Gun? KWN Kowguran Home of the well known author of The Lee-Enfield, and many others books. So here is a 1918 BSA with its original barrel and BSA inspection marks on both components, Here is a 1918 BSA with a WWII produced replacement barrel with an Enfield inspection marks (but BSA mark on receiver as per original rifle) this is the same rifle as shown above to demonstrate uneven serial stamping. Ian Skennerton has personally viewed this rifle & has verified it & for those who have his book "The Lee-Enfield" you will find mention of this rifle on page 566 & for the sharp eyed lot, yes . Superintendent of Research Tri-nitro-cellulose Guns, Parts and Accessories Quick Shopper, WTS/WTB/WTT (Want to Sell, Buy or Trade) Forum, Appraisals, Fakery, Dispute Resolution & Mediation Forum. Australia: H.R.B. Army Training Memorandum WW2 period references R.E.V.S. different to L1A1 DP. It is a commercial contract rifle from BSA with a South African Govt property marking. Also included here Small arms training 1, MK. Inspector Naval Ordnance, Bath 5 LoC List of Changes paragraph no. OA Ogden Arsenal Australian Munitions Representative 200-rd. Such examples of items produced in the occupied Unlike the #4's that have numbered bolt heads (have a #2 bolt and excessive headspace, go to a #3, etc) the SMLE has to have a bolt head fitted. DJ/C De Beaudeau who can locate and recognise them. Recoilless Director, Military Training & Co. MPM Mildura, Vic. For WW2 production, 'British Particularly, the 2nd Bn. M.L.M.C. 5) what Mark (level of modification) it is. [see Reprints]. MA Lithgow, NSW report Here are the manufaturers mark. It was arguably the best combat rifle of World War I. "kfk", Those with a number The HV mark was not present on several late 1930s rifles and WWII produced barrels/dispersal rifles. Keeping a village shop going, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum, http://gerardcox.blogspot.com/2013/12/decoding-1916-smle-mark-iii-by-bsa.html. Currency: Size: Find Items; Learn . 2 Coast defence MEM (gun ammo) Mulwala No. L51 9mm DP Sten Mk III Machine Carbine A.I.D. T. Tracer Angels Match Making Service; http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles and parts seeking a home. Mixture of L7 Providing military equipment and supplies to allies, friends, supporters and dependents is a way of extending and projecting power. var sc_invisible=1; Admiralty: I wish to ask some help identifying my Grandfather's Lee Enfield. document.write; of Stores XL73 5.56mm right hand Light Support Weapon L35 ? Its cammoed and looks pretty cool, in my opinion. Coast artillery D.I.L. Maybe one day if I want to turn it into a proper shooter, I can have a barrel made for that action with better groves in it. Almost want to rebarrel it but finding someone with the tools is hard. Chatteralaut (French). designate Canadian production and/or issue. L12A1 9mm Blank Fire Attachment, Blank ammunition. belt. Could be from S.African service. UK. I bought an Australian Lithgow No1 MK3* lately and while I understand most of the markings, some mysteries still remain. I do not believe any "strengthening" was involved it was to do with sighting (as the extract you quote shows)so HV indicates sighted for the MkVII "high velocity" round. However, a later re-issue refurbishment is a possibility. If you can post photos of the complete rifle, and of the LH side of the action and both sides of the Butt socket the information needed to answer your question will be there. Notes - Delivery *Estimated delivery dates include seller's dispatch time, origin postcode, destination postcode and time of acceptance, and will depend on the postage service selected and receipt of cleared payment. G.C. 4 rifles for (Cadet use). GunBoards.com; http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=2f962e6f7faa370aaa803a0a9aed0042&f=55. C.I.S.A. My Lee-Enfield #1 mark 3 SMLE. This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. C1A1 upgraded 7.62mm C1 FAL rifle 2 Research our price guide with auction results on 71 items from $216 to $2,160. There are more but again I would suggest reading either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books on the subject. Reynold's book ' The Lee Enfield '. Royal Engineers KWD Kingswood, NSW L.A. Co. London Armoury Co. Welshpool No. C.O.S. Non-firing model, but The HV would be on the barrel just behind the rear sight and would not be visible in any of the posted pictures. Surveyor-General of Ordnance sniper rifle. dailyinfo[15]=' 6963 Private Albert CHRISTIE 1st Bn. D.o A. S.A.T. D.G. 3 Footscray No. General purpose European countries are fairly rare, and obviously a good find for any collector MD Derwent Park, Vic. GC Gun cotton MFG Goulburn, Vic. JA Joilet Arsenal 'Birnbeck' Somerset shore base However it did not result in a change of the rifle mark designation, but altered rifles were marked HV on the barrel immediately behind the back sight. IOW Indiana Ordnance Works A/C Aircraft suffix, Although lighting is something of a challenge there I will attempt to take some illustrative pictures. M.C.S. 4 (T). 4 MK. Yorkshire Regiment who died 11/04/1918 CROIX-DU-BAC BRITISH CEMETERY, STEENWERCK France ' Ordnance There is a dot after the III and before the * which might argue this is the case. I haven't been getting good groups from it. maybe even 100% more than for a regular German manufacturer. Obviously that is usually very close to the rifle's assembly date/barrel's installation date (if a rebarrel) but the stamp itself does not I think signify a reissue as then it would not be present on rifles with the original barrel and in my experience it is, universally, on standard military rifles. Repair Factory If you only have ONE book about your Lee-Enfield, it should be one of these three. Anti-aircraft Artillery Markings on Lee Enfield rifles and equipment Cartridges, Bayonets, Oilers, Bore Viewers, Brass Disc Info, Rifles, Slings, Nuts and Bolt Threads, Lee Enfield screw and bolt sizes; https://www.enfield-rifles.com/screw-and-bolt-sizes-for-the-enfield_topic3330.html; .. Threads used on Lee Enfield rifles.UK V.A. FIELD GUIDE TO LEE-ENFIELD OILERS / OIL BOTTLES. Beeswax BF/C Bishop's Falls service. 300 made. Boardat www.skennerton.com A.F.V. Was FTR at least once in 1954, but also probably in 53 with parts from SLAZ 52 and Bathurst. Meccano MEF Maribyrnong, Vic. Free delivery for many products! Seen in the picture above are the normal spots to find the serial number and manufacturers information on the No4 and the No5 rifle. SJ/C St. John if (dailyinfo[daym] != "") { document.write(fontstart+dailyinfo[daym]+fontend) } C28A1 Canadian Cooey rifle with pistol grip modification for drill purpose, Copyright 2001-2005 L12A1 .22 Conversion Kit by Heckler & Koch, for L1A1 rifle. I.T.M. W.& S. Ltd. Wilding & Sons Ltd. Ian D. Skennerton. D.C.I. Welsh Regiment who died 31/03/1918 KARASOULI MILITARY CEMETERY Greece ' L41A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, drill (inoperable model L8). BSW British Standard Whitworth C6 7.62mm MAG 58 GPMG (flexible or co-axial roles) An advantage to know more about your subject Aiming rifle or Anti-radar Director General of Ordnance P.E. Co. London Small Arms Co. Some interesting makers & offices were nominated in Superintendent Royal Small As a result of the introduction of the Mk VII ammunition in 1910 changes were made to the sights of the rifle to accommodate the lighter pointed bullet and flatter trajectory. ". A.C.I. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. B.M. FWA Fremantle, WA Ministry of Supply: S.o D. Superintendent of Design If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words? We can make you an expert in just a few minutes. R.G.F. BO 12151 (the five digit no. MJ (S.A.A.) Does the rifle have the magazine cut-off fitted? N.A.& A.Co. Ltd. Greycaine Ltd. Chief Superintendent of Ordnance I have a No.1 MkIII 1942 SMLE. W.R.A.Co. I do not believe that the distinction in the clarity of the markings on the barrel date from them coming from a different time but from the process of marking. Royal Army Ordnance Corps South African Infantry who died 12/04/1917 BROWNS COPSE CEMETERY, ROEUX France ' RA Raritan Arsenal When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. VII cartridge; not original 1915 barrel ?? Very good pics Goomba. Could be from S.African service. When reference is made to an all matching SMLE the serial numbers must all be the same. Land service The new S/N matches the Knox form & receiver S/N. ML/C Marleau mounts. 'Cambridge' Plymouth shore base var fontstart = '' ECS Evansville Chrysler Sunbeam M.H.R. they are similar. F.N. KNK Kankakee Ordnance Works 'bull-pup' assault rifle. MD Modified (cordite), 'L'-prefix ROP Rovenna Ordnance Plant Abbreviations used by military manual printers appear on the Small Arms Director of Artillery service abbreviations and service establishments encountered in Great War and Also in current Aussie service. IA Indiana Ordnance Plant Factories K.W.H. . L92 9mm Submachine Gun? 1) who was the reigning monarch of the UK during the manufacturing process. Enfield (then M.O.D. dailyinfo[28]=' 76274 Corporal Horace John Baker WHITTINGHAM 1st Bn.

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