That's just how funny memory can cloud things. A good example of that is Bloodsport. I believe that story is 100% true, because Michel Qissi was with him and he told me the same story. All that was missing was an actor to play Frank Dux. In Enter the Ninja, I didn't use my real name. Bloodsport. So we had a number of people come to my apartment; John would test them out for their acting abilities and we would also try to determine if they were for real.Blake Harris: In what sense?Sheldon Lettich: Oh, I just meant we'd try to determine if they were really Vietnam veterans. They'll cover Frank Dux being a real man, Van Damme's soft baby buns, blindfolded tea training, the not so secret illegal Kumite martial-arts tournament, Ray Jackson, and much more. It was ridiculous what they had. You can listen to theBloodsportedition of the HDTGM podcasthere. Which was Mike's move. Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1994 science fiction comedy Tammy and the T-Rex. Jean-Claude saw Menahem on the street, did a U-Turn and said, "Hey Menahem, remember me? You gotta admire the fact that he wanted to get a real Vietnam vet working on the script with him. The government did not know how much he knew about other covert operations, he said, so they placed information in his file to destroy his credibility. I said, "You're trying to prove to yourself that you could do it. And he turns to me and he says: "You know, Frankie, I signed a five-picture deal. Another thing was that had I co-directed The Quest with Jean-Claude, it might have contributed to a mistaken notion that Jean-Claude co-directed Lionheart and Double Impact with me. Bloodsport (1988) Starring Jean-Claude Van Damme and Forest Whitaker based on experiences in the life of martial artist Frank W. Dux My involvement in that tournament was part of a plan, launched in 1975, to infiltrate the criminal organizations that organized the fights. Do you recognize the guy all the way on the right? The one thing that we did that made the film work so well is that we would do one "twinning shot" per scene. And he agreed to that. So these kids kind of grew up together. So I ended up writing that script for him. DuBois' Bloodsport first appeared in Superman Vol 2 #4 by John Byrne back in 1987. He basically makes up these stories, casts himself as the leading character and somehow convinces himself that he really did this stuff. We Hate Movies podcast did Timecop for one of their eps, and likewise, it is one of their best eps. "The fact that Frank hasn't been involved with any movie since 1994 says something doesn't it? At one point it was the second most profitable article they'd ever written. That editorial attributes statements to me that I never made. I wasn't there. KUMITE! Even though we thought the movie was better, Menahem didn't. Discovered by Player FM and our community copyright is owned by the publisher, not Player FM, and audio is streamed directly from their servers. I remember there was a stack of scripts lining the walltitles written on the spineand I notice one script in particular. Please note as always his opinions, recollections and claims are his own, and not necessarily fact. It worked great. We may receive a commission on purchases made from links. Like M was Admiral Menzies. So Leon and I go and pitch this to Menahem. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, Nicole Byer of Party Over Here joins Paul and Jason to discuss the cult 1988 Jean-Claude Van Damme martial-arts film Bloodsport. We pitched it to them and they were kind of interested, but at the end of the day they decided not to do it. Although there is no convenient way to verify each and every detail connected with this story, the editors have verified enough of the basic facts to feel confident in publishing it. Mind you, he's alleging: You're gonna tell me a receipt floated around from 1980 to 1988? he's a terrible actor. Because I think he's got a Walter Mitty syndrome. What was all this camaraderie about? I didn't understand. I had them cut down so it would fit him because I'm a bigger guy. So I started doing a Howard Cosell imitation and that's where I came up with the term Bloodsport. Uh, no. How Did This Get Made:A Conversation With Frank Dux, The Real-Life Inspiration For Bloodsport. A lot of it was based on the recollections of my friend Kurt Taylor, who I wrote the script with. So to compensate, they put me in these metal boots. And he was just a different person. He was crushed. He went in and redid it. There were a number of people who really liked it. Blake Harris: Since martial arts is, and has been, such a large part of your life, I was wondering if it was also a large part of your childhood.Frank Dux: Actually, no. That is not to say that the Tanaka name has no meaning. He was a little too old at the time. That's what they always show on the history channel, those two to the head. It sold well at the box office, grossing $65 million on a budget of $1.5-2.3 million. And I had read an article, in this magazine called M, about the French Foreign Legion. "There is not Mr. Tanaka in Japanese history" of the Ninja families, Tanemura said. People don't really know that about Lee, but he had one leg shorter than the other. Because believe it or not, Robert DuBois truly was the man known for shooting the Man of Steel with a bullet in DC canon. And apparently it did huge business. And this felt very personal because the guys that were up on stage for those initial performances were pretty much playing themselves in many respects.Tracers, as the play would later be titled, was first presented as a work-in-progress performance piece on July 4, 1980. I thought Bloodsport was going to ruin my career when it was first cut and put together. ).Blake Harris: That's great. He was good at boxing. In this case several members of the staff have invested considerable amounts of time and energy checking the details of the following article, which was the product of a series of four interviews conducted over a period of three months. And he did. Why don't you go check it out?" The Corsican Brothers. It developed a strong cult following, and has been cited as an influence on the development of mixed martial arts. I thought it was Pasadena, but everyone's told me it was Long Beach. And he said yeah. I said to Frank, "That's a great title for a movie." But Michael Dudikoff is like 6'2," and the problem was they wanted to film in Asia. And he was brought to our attention through Sheldon. It was "Dukes." And here it is, years later, I got to go with her and take it to the movies. And it's interesting because they hide that, you know? Like I'm a kook because he comes out of a James Bond movie: You Only Live Twice. But he was telling me about this tournament that he participated in where all the best fighters in the world showed up. And then he was inspired to write a script. Jean-Claude's character comes to the US to help out his brother, not with anything like revenge or violence on his mind. But the only guy in the world who could kill Jean-Claude with his permission is Sylvester Stallone. Well later on it comes out in court and it's a picture that they took of me on that pamphlet. Ian Fleming based his characters on real people. 5 years ago. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, Nicole Byer of Party Over Here joins Paul and Jason to discuss the cult 1988 Jean-Claude Van Damme martial-arts film Bloodsport. And tears started to form in my eyes. He couldn't say anything. I never said that. You can listen to theBloodsportedition of the HDTGM podcasthere. So it was lot of college hijinks, trying to get girls and all that stuff. So he started taking me to construction sites where I could get work. And we ended up settling. The character is initially depicted as a vengeful veteran of the Vietnam War, angry at the people of Metropolis for their "senseless . But what's interesting is that after the fight, I see Norris signing a program for Moore. That's not even my name. with Andy Griffith, where Barney Fife was getting picked on and so he goes to learn judo. He's a real talent when it comes to that. They were doing a showing of Bloodsport in a theater in my old home town and I just happened to be visiting. Menahem says, "Oh, Corsican Brothers, that's perfect for Jean-Claude! In fact we did the casting at my apartment. These guys, after brutally going at each other, now they were just laughing it off. Because Jean-Claude uses people and chews them up as quick as he can. The film finds the Suicide Squad going on a mission to the fictional country of Corto Maltese to carry out a mission to destroy a secret installation housing a secret weapon known as Project Starfish. "Tagline:The True Story of an American Ninja. A number of ideas were thrown out. And so he told Menahem, "Sell it to me and I'll release it theatrically." They did sequels and I've never gotten paid for them when I was supposed to. And I showed that in court. Not what's typically expected, which was: Jean-Claude's going to find these motherf***ers and beat the s*** out of them. Bloodsport 4: The Dark Kumite. In fact, Midway Games attempted to license Van Damme's image for the game. That this guy looks just like me and we should suggest it to Mark DiSalle. So when he heard that there was another movie with Van Dammeand this time Van Damme was starring in itSammy was totally enthusiastic. A franchise was the idea. The Robert DuBois version of Bloodsport made his live-action debut in the television series Supergirl, played by David St. Louis. Bloodsport wasn't an Oscar-worthy film in any manner (the original cut was deemed unwatchable and a re-edit was completed before release), but Van Damme's stoic charisma and the memorable. He said, "Movies often come in cycles and there hasn't been a martial arts film in a while; I think that cycle is going to come back soon." No Retreat No Surrender movie led to Van Damme getting the lead in Bloodsport (1988). Around this time, Leon Isaac Kennedy [from The White House All Stars] had been in in a Chuck Norris movie called Lone Wolf McQuade and there was talk about doing a Part Two. Well I did, and I landed one right on his nose.Blake Harris: Really?Frank Dux: Yeah, and he was not happy about that. He remembered that there were different shots. I wasn't going through anything like that myself, but it's therapeutic if you're able to recreate something that was an important part of your life and find a way to transmit it to other people. But there was a Writer's Guild arbitration and the Writer's Guild ended up giving him a co-story credit.Blake Harris: Tell me a little bit about Legionnaire. When I heard that name, it was like bells started ringing. And everybody had their picture taken with me, and I don't recall anyone having their picture taken with Sheldon, outside of his friends. I'm not gonna stoop to his level. And separates Mike's shoulder. And then all the Black Dragons got around methey were like the Hells Angels of the martial arts world at that timeand I didn't know what they were going to do. We thought he was f***ing great. Roger Moore co-starred along side Van Damme in The Quest (1996) ironically playing a James Bond actor which Frank Dux had said inspired him to learn martial arts in the first place. Commander Alexander Martin available for review. It was also seen by Viacom. I don't know if they ever approached Chuck Norris, but Chuck didn't seem right. Shortly after running our last piece, How Did This Get Made: A Conversation with Frank Dux, the Real-Life Inspiration for Bloodsport, I was put in touch with Sheldon Lettich. He's not very good, of course, but the judo instructor steps in for Barney and then kicks the ass of the guy who's been picking on him. Back then, things were so different. How conscious were youand I don't mean with that movie, but in generalabout that kind of formula. He threw a ridge-hand strike and he swept him at the same time. But, I mean, he couldn't do a forward roll when I first got him. Then for Double Impact we thought: let's just go for it. How Did This Get Made is a companion to the podcastHow Did This Get MadewithPaul Scheer, Jason MantzoukasandJuneDiane Raphaelwhich focuses on movies. He was just polite. That's the thing. In this declaration, Commander Martin attests to the following: Frank Dux: As far as my military service goes, I should also mention that I'm named as a source contributor in the US Navy SEAL SPECWAR manual. That's water off my back. I said, "But I can see your view from here and how the world could look bleak." KUMITE! And then Hollywood got to him and he started showing signs of manic depression, you know?Blake Harris: In what way?Frank Dux: I'll never forget. During my intelligence career, I have met with and been introduced to many covert operatives, whose existence has often been officially denied by the government agencies that these parties have been associated with. Frank and I did write a couple of scripts together, and he received credit on both of them. And then Troutman gets captured by the Russians and Rambo's feeling guilt because he let his buddy down. Nobody clapped or wanted to have their picture taken with you. ". They each got three chances to punch (and block) one another. They always gave me one camera to kind of use and shoot it the way I'd like to see shot. That's what really happened. How did that happen? And I can cite the evidence.Blake Harris: Looking backand considering what eventually happened after the film came outis there anything you could have done differently?Frank Dux: You know, it's part of life. My body's fully developed, I jumped up like a bean sprout, and now I was eyeball to eyeball with Moore, who this time fought the Unstoppable Mike Stone at Long Beach. A simultaneously misleading and fitting title was certainly bestowed upon Bloodsport 4: The Dark Kumite, by far the worst installment of the franchise by a longshot. Following his appearances in the two preceding sequels, Daniel Bernhardt returns in the new role of Agent John Keller, who goes into prison . Give me a shot with him." What I said to them [the LA Times] was that the only way you could get a hold of my records was to go to Federal Intelligence Court. And then he did a kick that missed his face by like two inches. Stallone's original idea was that [Colonel Sam] Trautman comes to Rambo and says something like: hey, I got a mission for you in Afghanistan. And he just started laughing and he says, "Frank, you're crazy. I'm not kidding you. On Bloodsport, we got into it during one of the fight scenes. Everything you've just been telling me about this Kumite, that's a great idea for a movie. Except the version that Stallone had in mind was for a present day French Foreign Legion movie about two American buddies who enlist. Oh man, he f***ing hated that movie. John had convinced somebody there that doing this play was a good idea for veterans. Now, Frank did contribute a number of ideas to the Bloodsport script, but he claimed these were "life events" that actually happened to him, not fiction. 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