For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If youre considering a Mad River canoe, this article will help you decide which one is right for you. How would you spend your money for general use? if you could help me id it I would appreciate it. We greatly appreciate your business and look forward to getting you out on the water. It was conceived as a replacement for Royalex, long considered the gold standard for bombproof canoes. Don't know of any manufacturer who uses a k for kevlar. no hidden. It would not be a great solo boat because its so big for one person. Have not looked yet. 3/26 . 17 feet 2 inch long. The Serial number is: VTB6009 OM73K columbia, MO boats - by owner "canoes" - craigslist. Kevlar Fusion and carbon are composite renditions of the Explorer. You can even use some kind of vegetable oil if you don't want to buy anything. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Spring and fall are the best times to find those deals. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Planned to take it outside for some glamor shots but this weekend has been absurdly hot and humid. At a minimum, pick the canoe up, and see how it feels to portage it. Improper care can cause them to warp or break. Thank you for the comments. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Theyve been in business for more than 100 years, and today they tailor their canoes to recreational paddlers. My number is MAD 14635F000. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. no favorites. The MR and Wenonah are both good boats. Mad Rivers prices range depending on the material used for the canoe and the model. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 Throughout the companys history, Mad River has introduced and phased out different canoe models. I've also found that some combination of 100/150/220 grit is all you need to refinish or touch up a boat. Mad River canoes manufacturing location depends on the material. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Just FYI my favorite home brew is 1/3 boiled linseed oil, 1/3 mineral spirits, 1/3 distilled white vinegar and this was once sold as Gunnel Lotion is a local canoe shop. Would a glass lay-up have a raised floor? Their hulls have a rounder, shallow-arch shape, in contrast to the flatter bottom of the Adventure. The Kevlar/Airex Explorer also had an outer layer of S 'glass under the gel coat which was nice. Thanks to you both on sharing your recipes for home-brew oil as will probably try this next round. 68 lbsMust be glass. Your boat looks like new or maybe better. Was stored in a gara Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield), Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (Lexington), 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe - $400 (WHIDBEY ISLAND). by openboat Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm, Post Archived Catalogs. Conversely, if you are looking for an all-around canoe with added durability, Mad Rivers T-Formex Explorer 16 is the better choice. Like LabsYoure picking a boat like some folks select Labs; I ant a Chocolate Lab. That often results in a poor dog, as color is a poor first determinate. 17' Mad River Canoe teak gunals excelent condition, non tiping. Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. The composite editions of the Explorer are much lighter, at 44 pounds for the Kevlar Fusion and 40 for the carbonversion. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. columbia, MO. Would be nice to get some glamor shots prior to mucking it up with a bright red sticker. 12.5 inch deep center. Here, youll find all the Mad River canoes on the market, as well as canoes built by other companies. Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. In 94-96 they made KE versions however my 94 catalog does not mention them. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. There have been some great deals recently but always a day late. Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. Timeless and Rugged. The shallowness also a bit of a concern as we really enjoy some of the bigger waters in Quetico. Should not be in the 90's this time of the year in MN however it didn't help that I had my kiln running in the workshop yesterday which went past 2,000F. Thank you for your consideration. 33.5 inch gunwale width. Nice canoe. Peace, Micah. Being a pre-1985 model, the gunwales should also be squared off rather than radiused if they are stock. No ribs however. I agree with the comment that it would be worth adding regular webbed seats. Hope you can get it. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. If you are looking for a superior built, light-weight canoe, then take a look at at this Mad River 18' TW Special. and the Old Town Camper - 15 and 36" wide - the only photo in the ad, Im sure youll receive several opinions on these models and Im happy to add my two cents. In 2022, Confluence Outdoor, Mad Rivers parent company, announced they were pausing canoe production. The KA at the end does not count. These canoes are ideal for anglers or families who are just beginning to dip theirpaddles. I bet the scale lies to them too. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Throwback to 2 years ago when we took our new-to-us Sunrunner on its first voyage in a somewhat sad (but up and coming) urban river. Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. by sbroam Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:01 pm, Post Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? suggest swap out molded seats for standard web bench seats to facilitate solo paddling from the bow seat facing the stern. Mad Rivers Explorer in Kevlar Fusion or carbon are both good choices for paddlers who want a lightweight composite canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. 17 isnt too long or short, can carry a decent load, has a little rocker for streams, gel coated Kevlar is an ideal layup - light but semi durable (much more so than skincoat Kevlar at least). Both have a good reputation for durability. Your canoe was built in May of 2000. Mad River Malecite, Bought 1994, used little, includes 2 wood paddles, mats, block for car top carrying. Hello fellow paddlers. Personally dont like to deal with the upkeep of wood gunwales, but some folks love the natural feel and enjoy the craft of maintaining them. If you are going to car top your canoe, the lighter the better. The ad says 40 pounds but Royalex Morningstars are around 55. If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. At 61 lbs it falls oddly in between the listed weights for Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar (55 lbs). What I can't figure out is what our model is. You are using an out of date browser. If the part you need is not stocked by Mad River Canoe or you don't see your canoe model listed, we suggest you try Edscanoes.com. Figured this was good as anything even if the scale is off 5 lbs being the weight difference should be more-or-less accurate. Seems weird that it costs $24 when he will sell you a brand new cane seat with frame for $28 but I liked the idea of keeping the factory seat frame on my solo boat. These Mad River canoes are designed for recreational paddling and touring, and different material options land at differentprices. Using 16-foot canoes as a baseline to compare, you can see the weight differences. Thank you! Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Explains the varnish-vs-oil question. Are you sure you are not missing a character in that HIN (hull identification number). Different materials match different needs, and Mad River makes the Explorer in T-Formex, Kevlar Fusion or Carbon. Someone here might know at a glance if this is glass as I too am suspecting. The T-Formex Remake. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post One last twistThe '97 catalog has nice exploded assembly illustrations of the lay-ups and in simply looking at the boat I would think it most resembles the KH build for three reasons. Given the information that the ID# of a kevlar boat should have a K also seems to point in the direction of fiberglass. by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm, Post I like the stability of the Explorer but also the deep red color - although chocolate sounds good. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). Mine has paint. Canoes from companies that have been around for decades, like Mad River, will periodically make their way onto used listings. 2011. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. My next question is with this boat in pretty much like new paddling shape what is it worth? You must log in or register to reply here. 18 ft. Mad River "lamoille" kevlar canoe. http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. It appears there is even a kneeling thwart just aft of the yoke for when you want to solo it. Home run. Get Started. Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your local Mad River Canoe dealer who can order the part for you. Anyway, your wood looks bone dry and perfect after 25 years so any good oil plus indoor storage and your boat will be happy. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). Scored this on craigslist for free! A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. 3/4 . Could be good that you didn't find the green and white label Watco since that takes about a month or two to dryI've found the Teak Oil is a nice compromise and dries thoroughly in a day or two. In those 6.5 days we logged 30 total portages for a total of 10,350M which is just shy of 6.5 miles with none of it being flat or easy. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Raised none the less. Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. The Journey and Explorer qualify as versatile touring canoes. Agreed on the weighing difficulties but I have been to Wisconsin a time or two and have seen individuals in bars sporting Sheboygan Goiters that must've been darn close to a 16ft cantilever. If math correct420 lbs or thereabouts. I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. The exterior of the canoe is reinforced for resistance against impacts. If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. Really closer to 45 is ideal (and for the lucky among us Savage River makes full carbon boats in the low 30s!). There are three models most recently produced by Mad River: The Adventure, Journey andExplorer. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. All of our kevlar Mad River canoes, a Monarch, a Malecite and an Explorer, have HINs ending in K. I was curious about the various MRC listings for kevlar hybrid/PVC/Airex composite layups in the Sunrunner and other models and looked through some old catalogs for explanation. KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? Just FYI in case you didnt know Royalex boats are no longer made and the replacement (T-Formex) is heavier and a new T-Formex tandem may cost $2000 so you really got a gem thats worth more than you paid. Thanks Mike for the input and I agree many details point to this being a glass boat. 3/4 . Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. Can you please help me with identifying our canoes model? Pip. I may see one in person which is Mad River Explorer and they say dark green. SmartMarineGuide New York, NY - All rights No wood rot. The polyethylene canoes are built in Greenville, South Carolina, in a factory managed by Mad Rivers parent company, Confluence Outdoors. Thanks again everyone for the information. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. 2016. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Use the part # shown in the schematic to locate the correct part. Wenona Sundowner is a nice model from a respected brand. refresh results with search filters open search menu. 3/17 . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Finding used canoes requires frequent searching. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. by Paddle Power Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:19 pm, Post Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. On our most recent trip we did 120km/75mi in 6.5 days of moving. Special If you are looking for a superior built, light-weight canoe, then take a look at at this Mad River 18' TW Special. Boat includes a removable motor mount. 1) Anyone know where I could get the polypropylene, molded end caps, touch-up gellcoat, or even new-old-stock contoured seats?? From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Its in pretty good shape except for the need for some gelcoat repair and the need to replace the gunwale. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in . This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. I would be tempted to sand and oil the peg hangers and reuse them. The boat is 16 long. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. The company was born shortly after the founder, Jim Henry, won the 1971 U.S. National Open Canoe Championship in his hand-built canoe. A glass boat is unlikely to weigh 6 lbs less than specs, and a Kevlar lay up might well weigh 6 lbs more than spec, especially a Kevlar Expedition model. Is that the measurement you meant? For more tips on what to look for when selecting a used canoe, read our article How To Buy A Used Canoe. In rough water a more rounded hull is better. Prices are subject to change without notice. For a 10-day trip we carried about 310 lbs of flesh, 35 lb food pack, 45 lb gear pack (which could loose 10 lbs if I can convince myself to leave our rubber boots at home) and a 20 lb backpack with fishing gear, med kit, raingear, etc. The camo seems to be too high quality and intricate for an individual to have done, and it appears to be under the gel coat inside and outside of the hull. Tracks beautifully The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. No wood rot. I tried to add a picture but it says the file is too big. I hope your wife likes the color and I hope you share your impressions of the boat once youve spent some time in it. Mad River Model Produced Sunrunner KH 1996-1997 Sunrunner KL 1994 Synergy RX 1996-2000 In the late 90's we were making some "spruce", "chianti", and "burgandy" Royalex hulls. Swift Canoe and Kayak builds the composite Explorer canoes in South River, Ontario, and the T-Formex Explorer is made at the Esquif factory in Framption, Quebec. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. by owner + boats - by owner . Thanks. The Pathfinder is $650. They stockmany canoe parts and are knowledgeable about Mad River Canoes. Mad River - Freedom Canoe. ~wetzool. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Canoe Mad River Explorer. I bet he'd take $500. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Inspiring paddlesports participation through quality coverage of the people, places, adventures, boats and gear, trends and events that make paddling something you'll do for the rest of your life. The customer service guy is out for the next week so will need to wait a for some of the questions I had for him. Am also going to put out the feelers for more MR boats of this vintage in hopes of scoring another as MN is a good place for this and I have an untapped, affluent source in mind. How about personality? Edscanoe.com is a good source. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your localMad River Canoe dealerwho can order the part for you. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. heres a thead from the archives: What surprised me was that some of the canoes are from the 1990s and must have had little use or well maintained. pelicanmy last numbers on my pelican kayak is j809 does that mean it was made in august 2009? 3/4 . Ultimately I would. sounds like leisurely day trips are the intended use, boat weight can be a factor as we get older. Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. BTW, I use the term geek quite fondly! reserved. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. Hey Micah, I suggest that you put some oil on the cane seats immediately. See how it feels to portage it the kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as kevlar (. 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