I keep the G30 on the night stand with 13 round mags. The Standard models are full size handguns with a large magazine capacity intended for FBI, law enforcement and military use as a duty/service pistol or for general use and self defense by civilians. Supposedly the .45 was created for a reason (Philippines), but from what I understand it wasnt to gain performance from the 9mm, but rather a .38 caliber round. I'm thinking I want to go with a 10mm Glock and am trying to decide between the 20 and 29. That way you are still practicing with the same gun. I prefer the recoil of .45 to every other typical carry handgun round. He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns. Me too. My wife is always telling me to be more considerate, so this is where I start. I actually find the recoil of .45ACP more pleasant than the 9 mm or the muzzle flash of the .357. Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 10mm Auto. And I havent had many volunteers to stand at the business end of a 9mm or .40 cal. Any other approach is merely for the sake of having an unproductive argument. Ive always loved 45s and the recoil isnt near as bad as some people make it out to be. Then I decided I wanted a .45. 770 fps and 208 ft/lbs of energy . GLOCK safety, reliability, and simple operation, all at an affordable price. Who knew wed micro-analyze the video. Big +1 for saying what alot of us were thinking when we had a caliber queen give us the spiel. Light weight, easily carried, and on target. It makes my father a little nervous. It took buying my own new albeit nothing fancy 1911 to finally get past my negative bias. I know all this, because I have one and carried it for several years. The G30 has a 3.78" barrel, an overall length of 6.97", a frame width of 1.38", and a height of 4.8". Not limited? Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed. First, I was startled to hear that its only a matter of time before I use my gun to defend my life. If I were to choose between those two, I'd get the 30S. The first Glock designed in 1981 for the Austrian Government is sometimes referred to as the "First Generation" or Gen 1 Glock handgun (top left below). Another thing to consider as far as the 9 vs. 45 debate is that the 9mm is literally like the 357 magnum of its class compared with its 9mm predecessor variants. For MA residents, every town is different. Slow fire practice wont translate into faster fire when you want to. The retired TX DPS officer in my Sunday School class was asked one time what the value was in having a the 3rd through nth shot. It is similar in size to the Glock 19 and the Sig P320 but has a lot more punch than the 9mm.. Glock 21 SF (G21 SF) Full-Size Handgun With Short Frame, Glock 21 Gen 4 (G21 Gen 4) Standard, Full-Size Handgun, Glock 30 Gen 4 (G30 Gen 4) Sub-Compact Handgun, Glock 30 SF (G30 SF) Sub-Compact Handgun With Short Frame, Glock 30S (G30S) Sub-Compact Handgun With Short Frame And Slim Slide, Glock 41 Gen 4 (G41 Gen 4)Modern Competition 4th Generation Handgun, Glock 41 Gen 4 MOS (G41 Gen 4 MOS)Modern Competition 4th Generation Handgun with Modular Optic System (MOS). I no longer shoot competitively, but the knowledge and learning methods are still intact. Trigger pull is commonly held to be 5.5 pounds, though that can vary a bit per each individual gun you find in stores. I use the G19 17 rounders, primarily because they are a little bit longer and stick out the bottom, but this is extremely useful because i can grip the magazine better when reloading. . The Glock 19 is a semi-automatic pistol designed and manufactured since 1988 by Glock for military and police forces. The 17 is the best as I was surprised at the increased felt recoil of the G19 which was disappointing. With the Glock 48, you're getting a pistol that's almost a quarter of an inch more slim than the Glock 19. The .45ACP measures .452 across, weighs about 230 gr. Nice post. Robert do me a favor, he said. Yes, the test showed that you can control both guns equally well. The Glock 17 and the Glock 19 are very nearly identical, with the Glock 17 having a barrel about 1/2 inch longer and a grip about 1/2 inch longer than the Glock 19. I prefer the Gen 4 G30 for the way it SHOOTS, seems to shoot just a touch "softer". COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I've had my 30S for a while now. Which would you prefer, and why? It became a favorite of most of the world probably without NATO. This is the first one that uploaded and the others are on the way. After reading this test, I just went into the range and did it myself. Requests were made to develop a cartridge in .45 caliber. Glock G19 Gen5 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G20 SF Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 10mm Auto Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? Weights UNLOADED: 750 g/26.48 oz. If there is no capacity limit, the 9 may offer advantages such as higher capacity and quicker split times between shots depending on the shooter. The regs are consumer protection regulations. The .45ACP was to provide a more modern cartridge that would stop a man, literally in his tracks, at a time when suicidal attackers proved that with determination, focus, and a few seconds, they were highly effective at killing officers, often in broad daylight. Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed.. It is worth checking their Website for the information based on the testing done and the pricing. I missed the paper with BOTH guns two times out of ten. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. without a magazine and 26.28 oz. GLOCK 21. They may not have, I dont keep up with anything SEAL since 90% of what you will find is made up info from SEAL wannabes. @Zealot I live in mass and these laws are dangerous because most people cant figure them out. Used to have a 36 but it had too many fte's for me to be comfortable with although it was 100 % with self defense loads, at the range with regular ball ammo was a different story. The G30 on the other hand has almost no difference in felt recoil when comparing it to the G21. This is particularly true when discussing consealability. Just then, the tacticool gentlemen next to me butted in with some unsolicited advice. Trigger Pull/Travel TRIGGER PULL: 2.5 kg/5.5 lbs. The G17 takes generous 17-round magazines and the 19 holds 15 rounds, meaning no compromises on capacity. If I could only keep one it would be the 30. Dex, What military special forces that use a 9mm are you referring to? The longer you take to stop the attack, the more time the attacker has to hurt you. It's slightly smaller (and more concealable) than Glock's full-size sidearm (the Glock 17 ), but large enough to minimize recoil and muzzle rise for faster, more accurate follow-up shots. John Lennon(.38) Bernard Getz used a .38 to take out multiple attackers. It is my EDC. Ive shot both of these too, though not in a deliberate test as here. i prefer my gen4 g23, but i can see how some would prefer the gen3-even with small hands. The Glock 19 is regarded as one of the best . Call it a draw. If I had to replace it I'd get another G30 Gen. 4. For IWB carry is the 30s more comfortable than the 30? [] Same when comparing SIGsIm faster and more accurate with the P229 than the P220. I know the slide is slightly more narrow on the 30s compared to the 30 but the width of both guns is exactly the same according to the Glock specs and the other dimensions are the same. Just goes to show. Im not saying this is the case with you, you just said a comment that I have heard all to often. Anyway I have always been a gun swapper and got to love glocks in the last year at age 74. As the rabbi noted, some towns are almost shall issue. Others issue, but with restrictions. You can read more great articles by John McAdams on The Big Game Hunting Blog. Specifications: GLOCK G36 Caliber: .45 ACP Capacity: 6+1 Rounds Barrel Length: 3.75" Overall Length: 7" Sights: Polymer U-notch Weight: 22.5oz with empty mag Street Price: $550 Ratings (out of five stars): Accuracy * * I was expecting a bit more from the G36, but I wasn't to be rewarded the way I had hoped. The double spring (I think unique in the 30) along with the ammunition used (I use Magsafe at 1450 FTPS which not only is really fast but the recoil is much lower and the weight of the full magazine is noticeable). I did a few size comparison vids this evening. The Rabbi put forth a test to which more people should pay some heed. It was pressed upon me that I could solve all that was wrong with my obviously flawed character if I just bought and carried a Glock 21. Retired USAF Aircraft Armament Systems Technician. Note: As I must shoot one handed they, for me, are the perfect carry piece. To me, in Texas, Im more interested in concealability in the hot summer weather. The first 4th Generation (Gen 4) Glocks came along in 2009. Glock 29SF. But the one thing that keeps me from getting (another) 30/30S is the grip, it still feels fat to me. It is considered one of the best semi-automatic pistols today, due to its robustness, reliability and ease of use. I think I regain sight picture slightly faster with the 19, 9mm is cheaper to shoot, and the loaded pistol with five extra rounds was 3-4 oz lighter (and a bit thinner), so I carry the 19. And the light was bad. I have never heart the term caliber queen before but I like it! It is used by police and other law-enforcement agencies around the US and is a common sight among "Heavy Metal" 3Gun shooters, and backcountry bear hunters looking for a little backup. Also most major citys police SWAT Teams and the FBI HRT also use a .45ACP. When was the last time that there was a legal DGU with collateral damage and the shooter was prosecuted? The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory. Ardak Kumerian, Admiral Commanding Red Fleet If I were limited by foolish laws, such as you are, then Id carry a .45 as well. Just wanted to add my experience with the Glock 30. If you dont like the cartridge and prefer 9mm, fine, by all means stick to what works for you, but people seem to always think .45 = full size 1911. Note: all Glock handguns chambered in .45 ACP feature octagonal polygonal rifling in order to obtain a better gas seal with a larger bore. LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS: 150 mm/5.91 in. If it takes a second longer to unload the .45, its not a valid test at all. If full-size isn't your thing, however, then you might consider moving to Glock's midsize 9mm 2. Safety Equals Practice. It is equally annoying to hear people emphasize slower when talking about the speed of a 45acp. Not .45 nor 9mm O:(. Its all about how well you are able to control the muzzle rise. The G19 is a reliable, well-rounded pistol. Both the Glock 19 and Glock 23 . It is compact, easily controlled at rapid fire, fits easily into my hand, and I have confidence in my skills, so that I know I will stop any attack that comes my way. Buy custom GLOCK accessories and more on the Team GLOCK Store. Until the bad guy is out of the fight, EVERY shot counts. Thus, if someone from out of state has a nonresident MA LTC-A, they can bring their new Glock to MA. A closeup look at my new Glock 30S, and comparing it to my Glock 19. Still chambered in 9mm, the G19 measures 7.28-inches in total length. Note: all Glock handguns chambered in .45 GAP feature octagonal polygonal rifling in order to obtain a better gas seal with a larger bore. I've owned a G30 for at least 10 yrs. You are crazy. I have both the G30 Gen3 and the G30S. There are 15 round and 10 round mags available-I carry interstate under HR218 and while HR218 credential holders are exempt from mag capacity andrestrictedammo laws Id as soon avoid problems with LEOs who havent received proper training. High round count practice is exactly how you learn to shoot fast. Previous Post Next Post I've been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. In addition to having one fewer locking block pin and a generally smoother trigger pull, Glock Gen 5 handguns have ambidextrous slide stop levers, a new "Glock Marksman Barrel", new magazines, and lack finger grooves on the grip. The G21 is the full-size duty gun GLOCK in .45 ACP. And . I think Masterpiece Arms is coming out with a MAC-11 clone in 5.7 for $500. True, but things my life depend on are not areas that I like to cut cost on. Fascinating. The statute bans assault weapons. Theres an exception for grandfathered guns and mags, but you have to show that you qualify for the exception. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? 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JavaScript is disabled. But then Id be more interested in control and accuracy. The Glock 19 would be advantageous in states that allow for magazines above 10 rounds. Eddie needs to calm down. I subscribe to the adage of putting as much hurt on the attacker as fast as you can. . If you are limited to 10 round capacity, the 45 is a better choice. Then I think about German ingenuity and design; it just seems like they have always had a reason for what they do while also producing successful products that work well. Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. I wonder how much that is in miles per hour? Once upon a time, I was at the range, refreshing my CCW skills, I got some unsolicited advice about how my little Ruger LCR loaded with .38 Spl +P Gold Dot was all but going to bouce off the crack head I might use it against. That wasn't much help was it? GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. The first and possibly second shots are the ones that will count most, and in this regard, one should care enough to send the very best available option downrange. Obviously, your mileage may vary. More of someone with more authority that knowledge, making decisions that cost someone else dearly. If you thought it was ok to carry a 2 shot derringer, THEN I could see freaking the f out. For example, theres a four-hour class and no shooting test. Walther Pdp Compact Od Green / Burnt Bronze Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 M Elite 10Mm 4.5" 16Rd Optic Ready Pistol Springfield 1911 Prodigy 9Mm, 5" Barrel, Fo Front, We find the dealer that offers you the most money. Ammo can be really usefull. If you want to learn how to shoot fast, you have to practice shooting fast. It is controllable in rapid fire, it fits right into my hand, I can carry extra mags discreetly, in a mini-mag light pouch, without drawing undue attention in public. Im sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast. Mainstream 'science' wears a big red nose and size 30 boots. Robert do me a favor, he said. Ill admit I didnt like the 19 either, as the Glock grip angle is all wrong for my natural point of aim. Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP. Guess Ill just have to get a 2nd serpa holster . Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. Gen 4 Glocks have interchangeable backstraps to better fit the hand of the shooter, an enlarged and reversible magazine catch, a dual recoil spring to reduce felt recoil, and a rough textured frame to improve grip traction (bottom right). 1200 fps and 382 ft/lbs of energy. My usual CCW weapon. It is the most popular cartridge used amongst criminals. . G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. With a 1911, training for IDPA-type shooting, that is a major skill to learn: How fast does your barrel .as you hold it with your gun and your standard loadcome back on target? They really have a guilty until proven innocent standard of proof here? We dont leave our fallen or injured behind, many of our enemies do even today. The 26? LEOs can buy new Glocks because, well . JavaScript is disabled. It just wasnt ever designed to kill, but to wound. Model are like shooting .22s. Not because carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal (If I thought that was true, I wouldnt carry a 5 shot .38 on occasion). It measures 7.36" x 5.04" x 1.26" overall, with the Glock's "signature" boxy shape. A .38 caliber isnt a decisive fight stopper, and often requires multiple center mass hits to affect the attacker. The .38 Special measure .357 across and usually weigh about 158 gr and has approx. When I got my 30S I posted a side by side size comparison (dunno if it was in this forum or another) with the 30s with the 9rd mag and the 10rd mag compared to my G26 and G19. Since he has been in a DGU more than once, and Ive not ever been there, Ill have to take his word for it. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. G19V.3 Gray, G19FS.4, G19.4 Full Fde, G21.4 Gray, G22 (Gills).3, G43, Gray, G42, Black, CZ 75D PCR. I quietly replied well, I find the size of my penis to be adequate, and so feel completely comfortable defending myself with a .38. This guy flipped the fudge out, to the point where the range master tossed him out, less he tried to shoot me. 15 rounds just sounds attractive, but there is a big controlability deference between all Glock 9mm pistols. Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 Gen4 Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? I did not have a problem getting mine, nor renewing, but I have had one for about 25 years. GLOCK 43 You never know. I'm right handed, but have always moved my mag releases on Sig's and Beretta's to the right side so I can drop the mag with my finger off the trigger as well as not having to reposition my hand to reach with my thumb. 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