This was our life. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." If they caught you, you were going to get an ass whuppin. I got convicted for a gang-related manslaughter. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. You lived in an apartment with four rooms and four people, and it was so close that you really lived in the street because you had to get out of the house. Because we were like brothers. areas at 8 PM. We were able to do that, whereas the newcomers werent. Many of us had guns, although I never knew of any used in a fight. So thats how it happened. Then, you know, the blacks started coming in and naturally there was tension and we banded together. Teenage Gangs Kill One, Injure Six: one shot and killed, one stabbed, and four beaten in a gang fight I've watched the movie The Wanderers each time it's been on, and still get a kick out of how the Ducky gang was supposed to be represented. The Majestics started in the early 70s. And that would touch it off right away, because theyd start yelling back at us, and before you knew it, wed be running down on the railroad tracks, theyd be running up. The year given is the year of the film's release or first season of the series. I caught a few. We spent a couple nights in jail. The only time I ever went to the hospital was the first time I got shot, because I didnt know what to expect. --rocketrye12 talk/contribs 03:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I moved it to Bronx gangs (mid-twentieth century), please mind your capitalization. True, that could be any college. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? It was an abandoned building. Wed have sticks, bats, clubs, and bottles, and wed just beat the heck out of each other until the cops came or until we got tired of it. Apparently Mario and Ernest looked very much alike and although Mario didnt discuss the death of his brother, it was something that Marios son always knew about. Baseball Baseball: Facebook Baseball: Twitter Baseball: Instagram Baseball: Schedule Baseball: Roster Baseball: News Basketball Basketball: Facebook Basketball: Twitter Basketball: Instagram Basketball: Schedule Basketball: Roster Basketball: News Cross Country Cross Country: Facebook Cross Country: Twitter Cross . FInally, since when was DeWitt Clinton "docile"??? Then they got out of the cars a second time and the guy ran away and Frankie ran after him. Joey DiMassi is leader of the Fordham Baldies, respected for his fairness and decency. What was so funny was that a lot of the people were intermingled, family-wise. I was 13 or 14 when I started. All those clubs that were fighting back then hang out together now. Homicide Dozen, The Hustlers, The Web, El Kavons, Cobras, and The Murder Junkies. No matter where you went, even the toughest gangsfuckin Puerto Ricans, blacks, whateverthey wouldnt fuck with us. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. We sold it right on the street. So they kept the neighborhood. They cornered him, stabbed him three times, and shot him in the ass. Anyway, we werent vicious kids. John Gotti, too. So this guy started going off with everybody. One of our guys got stabbed 20 times by the Flaming Satans. Like one time, I saw it was clear through so I just patched it up, and forgot about it. In the 1960s, among students citywide, truancy increased and socializing gained priority, whereby other high schools often issued diplomas once their requirements were met via Roosevelt's evening and summer . With us in the building, there was security. Corona Queens - Best Italian Ice in New york City. The story is set in The Bronx in 1963, starring a series of young actors who were mostly first-timers and relative unknowns. You wanted to teach him a lesson. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. So our style of dress and everything was like them. Department Chair: Dr. Ipsita Banerjee (JMH 642) Associate Chair: Dr. Joshua Schrier (JMH 616) Administrator: Adriana Magnotta (JMH 642) Ipsita Banerjee, Ph.D. Was a wild time growing up, some bad, some good, but many learning experiences came from those times. We would hang out in these abandoned buildings that we had electricity running into. There was a guy called the Baron and a guy called Bob the Queer, and theyd get us whatever we wanted. We also used the 'whistle' as an all clear after the cops had given up chasing us around and it was safe to come back out. To make a zip gun you buy a cap gun. The guys in the restaurants were cool with us, and in return, we took care of them. Or wed buy a 40-ounce bottle of Budweiser, a quart of Ballantine, sit up on the hill and drink that. You have every type of person in every club. Someone please remove this, its a rap music term. Everybody else had to shoot, because we already were. I dont have any emotions anymore. This is my hood. So wed form a line, walk right down and stop. Clubs may be doing their dirt, but the people on the block aint bitching because they do good for the block. They didnt like me too much. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. When I was in Spanish Harlem, the guys in gangs wore silk jackets with their name on the front and the club name on the back. When everything was done, there was one of them dead from a gunshot and a knife wound. Fourth, sources.I will be doing some more research and adding much more information. And then it got built up even more. In them days, it was no big thing. And I tell you, it was a great fuckin scam. Underneath the hill, there were the train tracks. Actually, I wish I could go back a couple years. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. Unless you also plan on making an article for the early 20th century, I'd suggest you leave of 'mid'. The Ducky was not predominantly irish or anything else, but yes, we were certainly a 'large' group. Oh yeah, and if you went down on a girl then, you couldnt walk around the neighborhood afterward. Heroin was a big thing in the 60s. There were no real initiations. When the pill came, everything changed. Then you had the Satans Souls for a while, who were on South 5th and Hoover. If you dont do it, youre not part of the crew. Or you find them in a car, dead. Im 50 now, and I havent been back. Sometimes wed say, Come on up. The son made it seem like it was a burglary, and we made off with all his weapons. Your chances of going to jail were even worse. It started as a dance club, and as things happened in the clubarguments and fightsit became a gang. Our turf was Lee Avenue and Lynch Street. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. Tvoz | talk 06:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], I agree with and understand all the changes. Ciappetta and Gugliemelli were charged with 2nd Degree Murder and the others with 1st Degree Manslaughter. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. They ran books, they stole, they shylocked money They ran the neighborhood, whatever they did. From the sweaters we went to a shirt, and from the shirt we finally got to patches. Wed get high and go into the city. This was from a roof maybe four stories up. This was not the end of the Red Wings gang, however. Just passing through. Eventually, if you hung out in that neighborhood you tried pills or pot, or whatever other crap came into town. Someone happened to see two of the guys from the Arabian Knights so we pulled over. Often it was handled one on? The police were able to trace the car to Giamppetruzzi and a week later had arrested all the defendants in the case. Before we started getting high on dope, we were sniffing glue. Dion, whose last name is DiMucci, had been a member of the Bronx, New York street gang the Fordham Baldies when he joined musical forces with Carlo Mastrangelo, Freddy Milano, and Angelo D'Aleo, who were part of a rival gang, the Imperial Hoods. We meet the Wanderers (Italian), the Del Bombers (Black), the Wongs (Asian Kung Fu), and the Fordham Baldies (oversized bald guys). (3) Police busted up a potential rumble and arrested some Gowanus 1926), Words gane to the kitchen,And words gane to the ha,That Marie Hamilton gangs wi bairnTo the hichest Stewart of a.Unknown. Once you drink a couple gallons of that wine, youre ready to go. I was 12 or 13. Even the cops told my mother one time they knew I didnt have nothing to do with it. If youre in my club, I take you at face value. On the next block, one block past Bushwick Avenue, was Aberdeen Park. Mostly a lot of chains, bats, and knives. That was it. THE 5TH (EAST,TREMONT AND MAPES AVE.) area in the 1970's: THE BLACK SPADES, PEACE MAKERS, HARLEM TURKS, 7 IMMORTALS, P.O.W.E.R. Also, we used to have a lot of gay guys come around and theyd get us a couple pills, some marijuana, and bullets for our zip guns. When wed fight with the black guys, it was more or less hit and run. Their rivals were the Harlem Dragons, who killed one of their own in 1955.The Demons who they had vicious rumbles with. If you looked down the hill toward Evergreen Avenue, there was a schoolyard, and thats where all the black kids used to hang out. You won. Problem-wise, you know, we had a few here and there. The 70s was real nice. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with People were sniffing glue, so the bodegas began to sell glue because it was so popular. Mario felt partially responsible for his brothers death and it was something that troubled him for his entire life. The Fordham Baldies were one of the gangs featured in the movie "The Wanderer". I personally didnt believe in jumping people. Stripping you means taking your jacket by force. But back then, if you had a girlfriend, if you were getting laid, you were the king of the mountain. Wed drink winewere talking now maybe one oclock in the afternoon. We went to the roof above this nightclub and when they started coming out, we just rained bottles and bricks down on their heads. We were so fuckin' broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. Next thing you knew, youd be fighting. I got into the gangs very, very early. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. By todays standards, there would have been a lot more lawsuits. After I received this email, I received yet another email, this time from Ernests niece who has some stories to share about Ernest that her father shared with her. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. When I stepped off the train, I saw all these abandoned buildings, and every night there were the sirens of the fire trucks, and people being displaced, crying, no place to go. The biggest place we would go was the Starship. Starts out in Immortal (Crazy) Homicide Turf, Coney Island and the Original Nathans, and ends in. When this second son was born, Ernests widow moved to California leaving everyone and everything behind. That happened a lot. Violence back then, if you put it on a scale, Id say it was about a seven. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. Or cite a source, of course. Then Id go into this one restaurant, talk to the guy I knew there, find out if there was any food from breakfast left99 percent of the time there wasand hed pack it up and give it to me. I guess I was lucky. Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. I always used to buy magazines just to check out the bikes. Their gang was the Comanchero Chaplains. It made more money. My mentality wasnt, I have to join that gang. It was, I like the guy, the guy likes me. Before you knew it, I married the president of the gang. I was with him for 24 years, so I was a real part of it. You came, you hung out, you drank a bottle of wine, you went crazy like everybody else. His father was a building super. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. I never wore Property of. In the gang, the girls used to have to wear Property of on their jackets. Not every club was friendly. Some of the cops knew us too. I got arrested October 1980, came home December 1993. Wed hang out in the park at night. There were real gangsters around too. I swear to God. Im 46 now and Im still with this thing. It was 60 years ago today (October 16th, 1960) that Dion announced his split from the Belmonts.Dion, whose last name is DiMucci, had been a member of the Bronx, New York street gang the Fordham Baldies when he joined musical forces with Carlo Mastrangelo, Freddy Milano, and Angelo D'Aleo, who were part of a rival gang, the Imperial Hoods.The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's . It was an opportunistic thing. You lived in the neighborhood, you joined a gang. Because of this gang fights between the two groups became the norm. The battle lines between opposing armies had already Robert Beer, Ph.D. (JMH 634) He lived like that for a long time. I also had to fight some of the guys in the club. If you want to see somebodys colors, you walk around the back and look at them. Bernard Caleo and Angelo DiVincenzo were seated on the stoop in front of the candy store, unaware of what was about to happen. Italians were Italians in those days. That was when the Bronx was burning. Two friends of mine once had to fight at Coney Island because thats where the argument happened. This was on Fulton and Rockaway, a half block from my house. By signing up, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy & to receive electronic communications from Vice Media Group, which may include marketing promotions, advertisements and sponsored content. If anyone stepped in, (stepped out of turn) he was accounted for verbally and brutally. Plus, if you had a leather jacket on and I shot you, chances are the bullet wouldnt even go through the jacket. In the 60s, the Puerto Ricans and blacks were coming in like there was no tomorrow. Convicted Red Wings were Frank Ciappetta, Vincent Gugliemelli, Philip Bonanno, Jerry Santaniello and Frank Giampetruzzi. It doesnt get any worse than that. Houston Street down to Canal, and Bowery over to Lafayette. Everybody fights to kill. They didnt look like they bathed. Then you were on file. But heres the thing: I was never a member of that gang. It was where I was going to end up, whether I wanted to or not. One group gathered at PS 171 at 30th Ave and 14th Street, the other It was something for show. You know, you pull it out or you just display it, and people say, OK, were not gonna mess around. Most of the time when you would shoot, you did it not to hurt somebody, but to scare them. at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. I never robbed anybody. For everybodyespecially our people but even for strangers, what we called Merigans, like Ameriganswe had respect for all of them. Ive snorted a lot of cocaine in my fuckin life, but these guys I know who used to do snuff, their noses used to fuckin bleed. It would scare people. Everybody else ran. He wanted to hang out so bad that he let us call him Snowball. We just got along. All the gangs recognized and even esteemed one another showing respect. These were all pretty much in the same area and were all converted store fronts with bars. I was like, What the hell is this? Then, slowly but surely, I started to gravitate towards them. You could see how things escalated. NYC Youth Gangs - 1950s. I was from one side of the Southside, and the Unknowns were from the other side. If you drank that, it was like forget about it. If two women came into a bar, they never paid for a drink and nobody even went over to talk to them. In September 1979 or 80, there was a big fire. So there wasnt one particular reason. I was trying to find my way out, and I went into this room and there was an opium den. Forget about iteverywhere you went, every corner, the drugs were there. At the same time, Henry remembers . It was also common for someone to be walking down the street, and a car would stop, and a bunch of guys would jump out and beat on him. Yeah, it was nice. This event took place in Washington Heights, I got stabbed in the head one day with an umbrella. They didnt have to worry about getting robbed or nothing on the block. Wasnt too much of a fight. We all got along. Me and my brother are probably the only ones that dont have a bike. Now all girls think giving a blowjob is nothing. There were six of them and two of us. That was East New York. So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. The problem with the Bronx in 1978 was there were real gangs. It took a lot of people out. 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