Love it. Do not bother with tilling, it will just cause more problems than it solves and you will regret it later. Sod farms here sell Compadre and a few other varieties. I understand the 'perfect' grass doesn't exist. Zenith and Compadre can be grown from seed, but you have to wait until late May to early June at the earliest/latest. Like Palisades, Cavalier requires less water and fertilizer while having comparable shade tolerance and producing a thicker turf than St. Augustine. Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) onSun, Sep 30, 12 at 10:42, "There are two other seeded varities with good decent Cold Tolerance, Zenith and Compadre, but neither are desirable or worth having."--------------------------------------------------. This is something you need to think about especially if you plan to till. My plan currently includes: killing the current lawn, tilling and amending the soil, grading, a second round of round up two to three weeks later, seeding when ground temp is appropriate, covering with .5 oz germination blanket, keeping moist (diligently) for two to three weeks, then removing the blanket. The hybrid Emerald resembles a matrella in texture and shoot density but is more cold hardy because of its japonica cross. You can make plugs by simply cutting a piece of sod with a garden scissors. In the north half of the country's Transition Zone, about the only Zoysias used are Meyer, Belair, Chinese Common, and Zenith. that shows KBG can spread faster. My yard is mainly white bull clay. I would recommend the broadcast sprigging method ONLY to anyone who can get sprigs from the farm though, or has a better way to produce sprigs from sod. The more opinions, the better, right. I really wish fescue / blue grass were lower maintenance, but I don't have the time to keep up with it. Characteristic-wise, the matrella's can be considered a middle species between japonica (with wider blades and lower shoot density) and tenuifolia (also known as pacifica, which has narrower blades and higher shoot density). ... Meyer and Emerald are circa 50 years old.If you like the look stick with them.If you need improve shade, drought or rust disease tolerance go with the ones developed for … You might want to do some homework on Palisade Zoysia. I’ve not tried plugging Palisades, and I know it is not as aggressive as El Toro. Slow must be a relative term because I'm sure Kentucky Bluegrass doesn't spread that fast, not a foot in a year. Note that in full shade and some wet soils, expect the zoysiagrass to get Large Patch disease. It turned out to be one of the hardest projects of my life. Reasons To Consider Zenith OR Comadre Zoysia Seeds. A little about my method first, for anyone curious. Cavalier, Emerald or Zeon? I used the "broadcast sprigging" method I described in an earlier post. Only way to fix it is the following season by top dressing and grading. Looks like you already have rosemary or lavender, which will grow bushy and have a medium height. It is well-suited for quality lawns where regular maintenance and care is provided. 1) How would Palisades and Compadre look together? Emerald zoysia is dark green with fine leaf texture, high shoot density and a low growth habit. I would not mix the two grasses. At that web site you mentioned, you're paying 15 times the going rate for zoysia and for sub-par sized plugs. There are two other seeded varities with good decent Cold Tolerance, Zenith and Compadre, but neither are desirable or worth having. I would also do plugs more closely spaced than 2 ft - for sure. Not all of which I think will actually grow well here and they honestly didn't seem very knowledgeable... or possibly I just happen to catch the 3 separate employees that didn't know anything about grass... which is what lead me to this forum. I would buy enough to do 3" plugs 6-9" on center.Actually, his response was the first I had heard of plugging so far apart. Hi Tjeep. I thus far have chosen seeded Compadre because of the cost savings over Sod, the quicker results over plugs, and positive attributes I've seen from multiple University studies. I like the grass and have some myself. In NC you want to use the most cold tolerant cultivars, Zenith, Meyer, or Compadre (former Companion) of the three, Meyer is the most cold tolerant, medium green during the summer, dense in full sun, thin in medium shade, and brown/dormant for 5 to 6 months depending on how long the summer is. I would bet you are ordering the plugs from a Gulf Coast State like Florida or Texas. Thanks. And you can see Palisades, this is what we usually buy. (40 inches by 20 inches is a piece of sod over 3 feet long and almost 2 feet wide.). I cannot find Myers zoysia grass seed to purchase. Here is a link that might be useful: Auteck's (former?) It also handles moderate shade and salty conditions quite well. In my front yard, I planted 4 big pieces of sod to instantly wipe out a big weed patch there. Emerald Zoysia vs Zeon Zoysia. The best method for stablishing a warm season grass is by Sod, seeding is highly discouraged. It grows rapidly, with a dense growth habit, and tolerates light shade. I was originally planning on seeding Compadre, but have learned that it has poor shade performance (roughly 15% of our lawn is moderate to full shade). Wildlife is evolving. When the house sold, after she passed away, the new owners--who made many changes, updates, and general upgrades to the house and property--left the corner as is, and had a lovely engraved plaque made and installed on the bench in honor of the lady who made welcome instead of war. It's difficult to get anything to grow under large trees because of roots, shade and competition for water, and oaks are particularly challenging. In answer to your question the local sod distributor is selling the following:Zenith Zoysia SodEmerald Zoysia SodTifGrand BermudaTifBlair CentipedeMercedes St. AugustineTall Fescue. I reached out to a local ag professor / turf specialist with some questions... below is my mail and his response: I'm planning on replacing my current lawn with a mid or wide bladed Zoysia. Thanks! Meyer Zoysia Palisades Zoysia improved shade tolerance. ... Emerald. Does anyone sell it. I know there are a lot of variables and very much appreciate your advice! Everything I had read and been advised about it is true. I also liked how the 5 x 5 inch plugs performed. Or you can go taller in the planter closer to the house, with a juniper spire or one of those space needle (?) So basically ZoysiaFarms is selling those 150 pieces of 1 inch by 1 inch plugs at 15 times the price of my local nursery [chuckle] :-). The county's water department had dug a hole there some 20 years ago, but they didn't fill it back in right, which lead to a big patch of weeds in the front yard zoysia. If you buy sod in bulk from a sod farm, your price goes down even more. I’ll have to look at the specifics on the specs of why the two different kinds of grass. Log in, Cavalier Zoysia Compared to Emerald Zoysia, Click to Download Our Houston Grass Tip Sheet, Cavalier Zoysia Compared to Emerald and Palisades Zoysia Grass, Please click this link to access our videos. Actually, if you call Andy, he may let you know of somewhere in your area (that's how I found out about Brier Chapel). You mentioned Empire Zoysia. Emerald – A very fine-bladed variety that resemble a lush Tif 419 Bermuda lawn. Maybe a few low plants on the edges with different textures - chicks & hens, mountain pinks (a low phlox). St. Augustine Grass is coarse and textured, commonly used for both commercial and residential lawns. It is very difficult to sort through all of the info out there on the growing number of Zoysia cultivars, and even more so when it comes to combining more than one of them! Palisades is a medium to coarse texture turf, it tolerates mowing as close as 1/2″ and is noted for shade tolerance and low water use requirements. Emerald Zoysia exhibits comparable shade tolerance to Palmetto St. Augustine, which is the most shade tolerant St. Augustine grass available. They irradiated some common centipede to create mutations to see what would happen. All zoysia grass performs best in full sun, but it tolerates light to moderate shade, with some tolerating these conditions better than others. St. Augustine is really popular here as is Bermuda, but after feeling all of them I'm leaning toward Emerald. My project would be somewhat like "RepoBrain" on youtube, linked at the bottom of this. Emerald is a cross between Zoysia japonica and Zoysia matrella, it has a thin bladed leaf, and one of the slowest growth rates of the Zoysia family. Well I don't know about that, been a sod farmer for aver 30 years, longer than you have been alive, and have been growing Zoysia Sod commercially all that time. Palisades Zoysia has good establishment and regrowth characteristics and is somewhat drought tolerant. ... L1F … Let us know how it goes :-), ....I mean there's no need to pay 15 times more than the going rate for zoysia, and especially not for tiny 1 x 1 inch plugs when what you really want is 3 x 3 inch plugs :-). Cavalier differs from other zoysia varieties because of its very fine, long, narrow leaf blades. Most importantly, Palisades Zoysia is one of the most drought tolerant of the Zoysias. Although seed is available, this grass is usually established through s… Emerald Zoysia is a fine-textured hybrid zoysia that is possibly the most attractive of the zoysia grasses. They don't look healthy to me, and they are easy to replace (unlike mature trees). My head is starting to hurt. In the south half of the country's Transition Zone where you are, the varieties (or cultivars) of Zoysia used are El Toro, Himeno, Meyer, Zenith, Emerald, Cavalier, Zeon, and Zorro. I would check around with at least 3 or 4 of your local sod farms, and see what varieties of zoysia they're using in your area, since those will be most likely to succeed for you. Schucks, a nursery a little farther away from me sells the same 40 inch by 20 inch pieces of sod for even less: $4. According to zoysia.com they have stopped selling myers seed. It is impossible for a DIY or even a pro to till to a specified even depth, and even texture. I ripped up quite a bit by hand, before finally giving up and plugging the last 20%. And oh what a pleasure it is to mow! Palisades Zoysia is one of the most popular coarse-textured Zoysia grasses in the United States. Palisades Zoysia Specs -Shade Tolerance: Full Sun and Excellent Shade Tolerance - Drought Tolerance: Extreme - Blade: Medium coarse texture - Intended Use: Commercial, Golf, Residential - Mowing Height: 1/2" - 2" Grows from above-ground runners (stolens) and below-ground shoots (rhisomes) Uniform density . Palisades does have good shade tolerance as you mentioned. Kind of hard to find a lot of positive feedback about it. Salt, Shade, and Heat Tolerant 3. Be aware that either of those types will need periodic thatching. • It’s also more cold tolerant than other grasses. Steve C. Replied October 12, 2015, 3:21 PM EDT. • It’s good to plant on slopes. For info about that, you'll want to see this recent thread. Rapid Re-growth with Few Seed Heads 6. Just saying "Zone 7" isn't really useful enough. Thank you in advance for your feedback. If you have solved your problems, I would be interested to know what you did. I live in Mebane and have red clay soil that I will amend after the current fescue and weeds are killed and removed. An arborist can tell you which trees will eventually get too big, which might cause problems with your water/sewer lines, which are healthy and which are not. This upright growth allows for mowing heights from 3″ down to 1/2″ for applications such as golf tee boxes. ... Emerald Zoysia Read More; Zeon … Here's a top-bottom spatial representation of the three: Zoysia japonicaZoysia matrellaZoysia tenuifolia (a.k.a. 03-30-2011, … Tolerates Close Mowing (1/2\") 7. Don't listen to TW, he offers decent advise for people out in Texas growing Bermuda (nothing applies to you). It will help you remember their characteristics. My neighbor has Meyer Zoysia in his backyard, which was sodded a couple years ago and looks great. I've been doing a lot of work planning to seed Compadre this year, and would hate to end up with something that is "not desirable or worth having". It's all one piece of solid zoysia now. a Zoysia that stands up to traffic means it recovers (grows) more quickly, which would by definition mean it would be more intrusive and higher maintenance. I'd lay the sod out and keep in watered during the process. In a different thread, Weedcutter posted a link to the following GardenWeb thread that may be useful:http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/seed/msg0715134418441.html?15(Thread title: "Zenith Zoysia (Seeded Time Lapse) 2009"), This post was edited by ZoysiaSod on Mon, Apr 28, 14 at 8:29. Any thoughts on using JaMur Zoysia in the Triad NC region by the way? New state rules will effectively limit turfgrass to 25 percent of the landscape in most new and renovated yards, Patiently observe what works and doesn’t work in your landscape, Brave the August heat and humidity in your summer garden, and you'll reap rewards this fall, Water restrictions making your garden look washed out? It is medium-wide blade, darker green (compared to other zoysia), and blends in well with the neighbor's fescue. I’m planning on sodding 8000 ft of Emerald Zoysia because I grew up with this grass and loved it but I’ve been told I should consider Zeon. It is also very cold tolerant. Or a tall grass (eg pampas?). If you have questions about any of our grass varieties or the right grass for your project, please call our office at 281-431-7441. Are those the 3 commonly available on your sod farms, or was there some other reason you mentioned them? I haven't seen his lawn in months and I asumme it is fully dormant right now. Zenith and Compadre ( formerly named Companion) are two of the newest "seeded" type improved Zoysia varieties on the market. Palisades Zoysia: Sunnyvale trusts this Zoysia species because of its tolerance to low light conditions, rapid recuperative ability, and little water use. TW - Honestly, my original question of whether Compadre Zoysia is 'worth having' wasn't a rhetorical one. Just go to your local nursery, garden center, sod farm, or even big box. It’s been a good choice for residential lawns, golf fairways, industrial parks, and sports fields. If link doesn't work, just search for "Compadre Zoysia" on youtube and you will find his vids (three parts). However, I have found many sources now that describe broadcast sprigging, which seems not too crazy of an idea, and the fastest way (other than sod) to establish a Zoysia lawn? Who listens to who is not for you to decide now is it? I see in some of the university studies that it has many great attributes, but I do question shade tolerance and (since reading your post) the quality of the grass itself. A comprehensive comparison between Bermuda & Zoysia turf types offered by Tifton Turf. One problem with that is when you maintain a close cut grass like Zoysia or Bermuda maintain at 2-inches or less the bumpy uneven terrain will cause scalping and gouging. For Landscapers & Contractors; For Athletic Fields; For Golf Courses; For Nurseries; Homeowners; Our Projects; … This method allows a pallet of 450 sf of sod to plant 4500 sf. I've found a lot of info on these varieties, but nothing that gives a good side by side comparison. Will I be wasting my time for something that is "not desirable or worth having"? Of the nearly 40 cultivars of Zoysia available in the USA, not a single one was created through irradiation. If they're in the shade much of the time they'll never look good. Their price before shipping is a whopping $14.95! El Toro Zoysia is even faster. People say zoysia is slow, but I'm very happy with the spreading speed of Meyer Zoysia. The leaves of this grass are coarse in texture and are a light green in color. Emerald is a hybrid between Zoysia japonica and Zoysia tenuifolia (the third species found in the USA). Also should say that I don't mean to knock tall fescue. Compadre (Companion) is looking like a winner to me. You can also call your local state turfgrass Extension specialist, often affiliated with a university I think. If you need amendments your contractor with the box blade can do that. Excellent Establishment 5. But there’s basically two families. Hi, we'll need to know what city you're in, or at least near to, in order to help you choose a particular kind of grass. The sprigs are then top dressed with 1/2" of rich composted soil and rolled firm, and the lawn is kept moist until the sprigs have established. I haven't seen the seeded varieties yet, but someone here (I think it was kimberlysc) said she was happy with the appearance of seeded Zenith. Compadre is more open and coarser textured than Palisades and also a bit lighter green in color. 4) Any general thoughts/suggestions on each strategy (plugging Palisades vs plugging Palisades & seeding Compadre together). Low Water Use 2. Compadre Zoysia (aka Companion) is one of the very few common Zoysia grasses (Zenith is the other) that produce fertile seed that you can buy. Replied October 12, 2015, 3:59 PM EDT. Here is a link that might be useful: part 1 of RepoBrain Compadre Zoysia planting 2012, Maryland. By the way, if anyone near the Chapel Hill/Durham/Burlington area is interested, let me know. Anyway their 4-inch round plugs of SR2284 Kentucky bluegrass expanded laterally by roughly 1 foot and 2 feet in about a year (give or take a couple months), depending if the round plugs were in Manhattan, Kansas, or Olathe. Emerald Zoysia No longer available: Meyer Zoysia View Large Picture: Click on pictures above to Purchase seeds or plugs (depending on what is available for each species cultivar.) Yes, it browns out in the winter, but it has grown and taken over ugly vines I had growing in my yard. hollies. I think in places that Meyer must have spread about a foot in one year. And I didn't plant the plugs every 6 inches apart. Can anyone rank these three varieties (1 to 3 with 1 being "the best") in the following three categories: Drought tolerant, Shade tolerant, and Most like to fight off Bermuda grass? 3) If Palisades were plugged independently, how quickly would the lawn establish? Check out this really interesting article in the Charlotte Observer posted by member sprinks98. Palisades would likely be 3. But Palisades is by far our number two seller next to Zeon and Zeon’s right here. People think that when they get rid of tall fescue that disease issues (brown patch) are a thing of the past. I planted the plugs every 12 inches apart (every foot apart), and this Meyer Zoysia still filled that area completely in within 14 months--just a tad more than a year. A big stationary island of weeds floating in an ocean of zoysia. Not to mention a professional landscaping business to go with with it. These grasses will not do that. How do Cavalier Zoysia grass and Emerald Zoysia grass compare to Palisades Zoysia and other grass varieties like St. Augustine grass? Gotta revise something I said in the last post. dpallas – posted 18 June 2007 16:52. Cavalier, Royal, Zeon and Zorro are dense, fine-textured and low-growing varieties of Z. matrella. Climates are changing. I am in Charlotte and plugged Meyer Zoysia 6-7 years ago. The cost was low, the value priceless. Bermuda. ok, was there additional questions I didn't answer?? Zenith & Compadre Zoysia can provide a better quality turf than Meyer and basically about the same quality as … It is wellis suited for top- -quality lawns where a good maintenance program is provided. Though they survived, and ones which did not were replaced by them.My price reasoning was to put in same or less amount of money, I may have had to put to seed and take care of any kind of fescue in one seasonHave been transplanting it in the backyard but it seems, I may have to do a serious search to find it close to Charlotte and cheaper like you did! The Extension offices in each state get money from the feds, I believe, so your taxes are paying for their service and advice. The Seeds Of Zenith & Compadre Zoysia Grass. Yes we have extremes, which limits what we can grow, Start yourself a new thread, Texas Weed is long gone. Palisades zoysia has a medium-coarse leaf texture with an upright growth habit. You want to pick the best sod for your lawn. Some pluses would include:*early green up (and late dormancy)*good traffic tolerance (we have two dogs, and yes I've researched the pee problem)*good shade tolerance*not too intrusive (into neighbor's fescue lawn, etc). I'd assume covering with a frost blanket to help retain moisture would help as well. Any suggestions on how to efficiently cut sod (whatever variety I end up with) into plugs??? I dealt with their salesman, Andy, who could not have been more helpful. I assume Palisades would dominate the shadier areas (I won't even bother seeding Compadre in those areas). ... Emerald Zoysia Read More; The … Plugs will have a better chance of surviving if they're at least 2 X 2 inches and preferrably 3 X 3 inches. So if you plan on having your dog use the lawn during the Fall, Winter, and part of Spring - think again. Texas Weed which variety of Zoysia do you recommend for Wichita Falls? Zoysiagrass. Anyone have experience with this method, or thoughts to add? Both varieties are slightly wider in leaf width than Meyer Zoysia. With good shade … I've seen the zones drawn in many slightly different ways. There is a reason sod farms in your area do not have it. If over fertilized Emerald zoysia will quickly develop excess thatch. Crepe myrtles need heat and sun to thrive and bloom. Slightly wider in leaf width than Meyer Zoysia. I planted Zenith Zoysia in central Kentucky about 17 years ago. When you till you bring up all those dormant seeds and give them everything they need to germinate. The 40 inch by 20 inch piece of sod is 800 square inches for just $5.800 square inches is more than 5 times the size of the 150 square inches that ZoysiaFarms sells for $14.95. This is the only species of zoysiagrass that has seed commercially available. Question is, how? If you want your house to peek out, the ornamental idea is nice. There are probably 30 different kinds of Zoysia. Auteck - You're making this decision even harder! I have a few bare spots that I want to seed. Regarding the Palisades Zoysia itself - it is AWESOME. Auteck/Zoysiasod thanks for all the details and the great replies. It is not as available in NC as many of the other cultivars, but I assume you have located a source? As the Professor eluded to if you plant on 2-foot center, you are looking at 2 to 3 years to get it to fill in. Vertical Growth (less trimming) Finer-textured zoysiagrasses tend to have relatively low maximum heights, even though some still exhibit vigorous horizontal spread. . First introduced in 1955 by the United States Department of Agriculture and the Georgia Agricultural Experiment Station, Emerald Zoysia is a hybrid between Zoysia japonica and Zoysia tenuifolia. Wish my bluegrass cultivars did that. It took a long while to spread as it's a slow grass, but it looks pretty good now. 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